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Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by worrycue on Monday April 10, 2023 @11:30PM (#35520435)
> Anecdotally I've seen people coming from a heavy STEM background struggle with nuance and ambiguity more than people coming from a well-rounded or heavy humanities background.

Engineers deal with ambiguity all the time. They do so in a logical and systematic fashion using statistics and probability. Noise is an unfortunate fact of life.

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Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by FreakLegion on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @06:53AM (#35523318)
We're talking about undergraduate degree programs, which for STEM consist substantially of problem sets and tests that have right answers. Sometimes they're just answers, sometimes they're more like Pareto frontiers, sometimes they're programs, but in any case the bulk of the work is verifiable, which is a luxury. It's a bit (but only a bit) like the difference between solving a chess puzzle and actually playing chess. We teach people with puzzles, then send them out into the world to play real games.
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Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by worrycue on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @11:29AM (#35526519)
They do teach statistics in undergrad engineering though.
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Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by FreakLegion on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @12:58AM (#35535197)
They do, substantially in the form of problem sets and tests that have right answers. This is the point; it's not a counterpoint.
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Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by worrycue on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @12:27PM (#35542317)
But the statistics they learn is exactly what they use to deal with noise.
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Re:American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Rev... by throwaway173738 on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @09:56AM (#35525202)
People are ambiguous in ways that defy statistical reasoning.
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