The Pornography Paradox - Hackdot

Re:The Pornography Paradox by expertentipp on Monday April 10, 2023 @10:55AM (#35513085)

Sorry but reality is not screenplay of "Legally Blonde". When living in Berlin I encountered numerous times the attitude "I already have friends and don't need new ones, why should I even talk to you?". People are proud from their attitude of hating "small talk" and being outright assholes. Few times I pulled some girl to dance classes and she said afterwards something along the lines "I'm going to the Moon and we'll meet again once I come back", hypergamy is brutal. What's left? Porn.

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Re:The Pornography Paradox by yamtaddle on Monday April 10, 2023 @11:05AM (#35513211)

Out here in US flyover country, everywhere I look I see unremarkable dudes who certainly don't look like high earners, with reasonably-attractive women. Sure, most of them (men and women) get kinda gross by middle age (we do have an obesity epidemic, after all, and it's much worse in some states than others) but the whole incel thing is just baffling from out here—how are these forum-dwellers having so much trouble finding a partner? Maybe the forum-dweller bit is the problem?

But these women live away from the coasts and like dudes who are into fishing or hunting (not Final Fantasy Online) and can secure a trailer hitch blindfolded, and most of them probably voted for Trump, so, I guess that's the disconnect? But then, the voting thing, they may have in common with the incels.

It's like two totally different worlds.

[EDIT] Oh, a lot of them probably attend some protestant church or another pretty regularly, which I'm guessing most having trouble making connections do not. Maybe that contributes? Guaranteed socializing about once a week.

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Re:The Pornography Paradox by Zigurd on Monday April 10, 2023 @04:20PM (#35516913)

You put your finger on one of the things getting in the way. Guys spouting "purity culture" from those churches will have the Atacama Desert of dicks. Fundamentalism, misogyny, trumpism, inability to support the bodily autonomy of women, white supremacy, even techbro libertarianism, will keep your dick dry.

That's what people like Jordan Peterson and even Scott Galloway get wrong: You can go to the gym and buy new bedlinens, but women can smell Ben Shapiro in your podcast list from across town.

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Re:The Pornography Paradox by salad-tycoon on Monday April 10, 2023 @07:45PM (#35518827)

Hi zigurd! Just chuckling at how much contempt you have for me and how incorrect you are. Lots of us are doing just fine and if anything enjoying the fruits of monogamy and waiting till marriage and delighting in the fruits it brings, stable, frequent and increasingly satisfying carnal fulfillment and children.

I will say though, plenty of young men and women like you describe where when push comes to shove they fold. Nothing new, abstaining and self denial are hard. I don’t fault them, at least they gave it a try. Theory is easy, practice is hard.

Anyways, don’t worry lots of us out here and all around making lots of babies and doing just fine, content, fulfilled, satisfied. We just don’t tend to make such a big vitriolic stink cause we have better things to do than cast shade. Plus, we are busy. Wife is busy cleaning, cooking and childcare . I’m busy working and teaching my children. Also busy getting busy.

It’s our choice, it’s how we both want to live and if I could do it all over again I would in heart beat.

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Re:The Pornography Paradox by Swizec on Monday April 10, 2023 @11:00AM (#35513147)

Yes it doesn’t always work. And it’s easier with people you already have some connection with than total strangers.

But if it works 10% of the time and you try 10 times, you’ll have 1 new friend. That’s great! How many do you really need?

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Re:The Pornography Paradox by mrguyorama on Monday April 10, 2023 @02:30PM (#35515630)

Hypergamy is psueoscientific nonsense

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Re:The Pornography Paradox by expertentipp on Monday April 10, 2023 @03:21PM (#35516236)

Sure, connect me with attractive German, Swiss, or American woman which after good times and sex will say "wow great, move in to my place and let's create family". Hint: this does not occur, even the first part does not occur. While the opposite, woman of my ethnicity with German, Swiss, American man - yes it does. Call it hypergamy, a nonsense, or whatever.

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