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Re:Australia Is Quitting Coal in Record Time Thanks to Tesla by eesmith on Monday April 10, 2023 @02:40AM (#35509747)
How are you making that comparison?

Do you mean an ebike ridden 2,000 km for errands and 8,000 km for fun; vs. the 2,000 km for the bike, for errands, but no biking for fun? That is, are you implying that the ebike is a lot more fun than a regular bike?

Or are you comparing 10,000 km on an ebike; vs. a bike ridden 2,00 km and some other personal vehicle used for 8,000 km? That is, are you implying that a human-powered bike means people will overall use worse forms of transport?

Or do you mean something else?

Re:Australia Is Quitting Coal in Record Time Thanks to Tesla by MayeulC on Monday April 10, 2023 @02:56AM (#35509826)
I think the implication is that commuting longer distances (20km+) is doable on an e-bike.

My commute is 10km (300m uphill) on a regular bike, but I have access to a shower. If I didn't, I don't think I could do it on a regular bike.

In general, it's able to displace longer trips (other than biking for fun) than a non-electric bike.

Re:Australia Is Quitting Coal in Record Time Thanks to Tesla by ClumsyPilot on Monday April 10, 2023 @07:47AM (#35511242)
> In general, it's able to displace longer trips (other than biking for fun) than a non-electric bike.

Exactly.

Since converting to an e-bike, I am using it 4x as much. Especially in the summer, it changes from a sweaty trip to a pleasant one. Those tips would normally be public transport.

10K sounds a bit ambitious, but myself and a friend are on track to exceed 3K.

This whole discussion is splitting hairs -> out of a single electric car, you can make 150 ebikes.

A good ebike battery is 0.5 KWh, a an electric car is ~80 KWh. An electric car might weigh 1500 KG and an ebike like 15.

So really it seems the conclusion should be that the ebikes are overpriced and they should cost $500 if their productions was automated like production of cars is.

Re:Australia Is Quitting Coal in Record Time Thanks to Tesla by manuelmoreale on Monday April 10, 2023 @02:57AM (#35509830)
I think they mean that you could end up using an ebike in situations where normally you’d use a car or some other form of transportation.
Re:Australia Is Quitting Coal in Record Time Thanks to Tesla by eesmith on Monday April 10, 2023 @05:30AM (#35510573)
What confuses me is the leadup is about getting an ebike, vs. an ecar or emotorbike. Not about getting both a(n e)bike AND some other more ecologically damaging form of transport.