Re:Apple Continues Efforts to Keep Retail Stores from Unioni...
by rvnx on Sunday April 09, 2023 @04:22PM
(#35506118)
Plenty of issues:
Certain union policies, such as the non-compete agreements within the AFL-CIO, can limit employees' options when considering joining another union.
For instance, a worker cannot join another AFL-CIO union for at least a year after leaving their previous union, which seriously restrict their choices.
`no AFL-CIO union can take on a member of another AFL-CIO union for at least a year after the worker leaves their previous union. This rule may significantly reduce the number of other unions you can join.`
Also, now someone else is going to decide for you, and you must adhere to collective agreements, and then, if you don't like something, you are stuck with a Union, then good luck negotiating anything directly yourself, unless you can get 30% of the company to follow you.
No way the boss is going to listen to you now that Unions are in place (as it becomes the primary and official way of discussion)
There is also significant potential for corruption.
Unions are good when you are working in a factory or in a mine, where workers have a physical work that is highly measurable and standardised.
This way you make sure that you get a fair and equitable treatment, and protect the employees.
In contrast, for roles where performance measurement is more complex and project-dependent, such as programmers or project managers, forced union membership with large unions may pose more risks than benefits due to the nature of their work (not easy to differentiate a project manager that is lazy and playing poker, vs planning tasks).
Now if this lazy PM is your union representative. It's really not good news, and he is now protected.
The problem with Unions are not US specific, it's in many countries.
In France, some Unions are openly corrupted, because the employees' representatives are practically impossible to fire, and they have bargaining power / secrets that could affect the bosses legal responsibility.
Certain union policies, such as the non-compete agreements within the AFL-CIO, can limit employees' options when considering joining another union.
For instance, a worker cannot join another AFL-CIO union for at least a year after leaving their previous union, which seriously restrict their choices.
`no AFL-CIO union can take on a member of another AFL-CIO union for at least a year after the worker leaves their previous union. This rule may significantly reduce the number of other unions you can join.`
Also, now someone else is going to decide for you, and you must adhere to collective agreements, and then, if you don't like something, you are stuck with a Union, then good luck negotiating anything directly yourself, unless you can get 30% of the company to follow you.
No way the boss is going to listen to you now that Unions are in place (as it becomes the primary and official way of discussion)
There is also significant potential for corruption.
Unions are good when you are working in a factory or in a mine, where workers have a physical work that is highly measurable and standardised.
This way you make sure that you get a fair and equitable treatment, and protect the employees.
In contrast, for roles where performance measurement is more complex and project-dependent, such as programmers or project managers, forced union membership with large unions may pose more risks than benefits due to the nature of their work (not easy to differentiate a project manager that is lazy and playing poker, vs planning tasks).
Now if this lazy PM is your union representative. It's really not good news, and he is now protected.
The problem with Unions are not US specific, it's in many countries. In France, some Unions are openly corrupted, because the employees' representatives are practically impossible to fire, and they have bargaining power / secrets that could affect the bosses legal responsibility.