Re:"They're Made out of Meat?" Short first contact sci-fi story
by wisty on Saturday February 04, 2012 @04:32AM
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Salman Rushdie started as a Sci-fi author. Then he moved into "Magic realism", which is Fantasy without the barbarians and buxom wenches (or more eloquently written barbarians and buxom wenches).
"Literature" is the label for works that are good enough that everyone should read them, not just genre fans. "Romance", "Sci fi", "Travel", "Crime", "Comedy", "Detective", "Drama" and so on are works that aren't good enough for everyone to read.
Of course, there's writers who hack their way into the "Literature" section by imitating the quirks of a genuine pieces of literature, or just avoiding all the other categories.
Re:"They're Made out of Meat?" Short first contact sci-fi story
by pessimizer on Saturday February 04, 2012 @09:57AM
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No, "Literature" is the label for works of middle-class introspection, whereas "Genre" fictions are books that are about any other subject matter.
If you move from actually having a subject to making your subject a metaphor for middle-class internal conflicts, you have made the move from Genre to Lit.
Re:"They're Made out of Meat?" Short first contact sci-fi story
by NHQ on Saturday February 04, 2012 @12:44PM
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DAAAAMMN thats a fine definition.
Re:"They're Made out of Meat?" Short first contact sci-fi story
by Craiggybear on Saturday February 04, 2012 @06:31AM
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Yes, that's why I refer to the kind of works you mention with the label "speculative fiction". They are really sci-fi but they have reached a level of social import and acceptance -- upon which they get labelled as "speculative fiction" rather than "sci-fi".
Re:"They're Made out of Meat?" Short first contact sci-fi story
by Drbble on Saturday February 04, 2012 @08:24AM
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"Speculative" is just used to bring fantasy and alternative history and other "what if the world worked under different rules? " material under the same umbrella as lasers and robots and starships. It is not a marker of quality level.
Re:"They're Made out of Meat?" Short first contact sci-fi story
by Craiggybear on Saturday February 04, 2012 @01:34PM
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Never said it was a marker of anything. There's good and bad speculative fiction like there's good and bad any other sort of fiction.
Brave New World, 1984, Slaughterhouse Five, Gravity's Rainbow, etc. aren't usually what the label conjures up.