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Re:Iran installs cameras in public places to identify, penal... by mc32 on Saturday April 08, 2023 @02:11PM (#35496026)
It’s more complicated because the reason someone may want to wear it is based on indoctrination. If you have a modern sect that indoctrinated its members to serve (labor, etc) the leadership and they do it voluntarily and in addition may balk at not doing it, posing their position as “a choice” is missing the context.
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Re:Iran installs cameras in public places to identify, penal... by spideymans on Saturday April 08, 2023 @02:22PM (#35496127)
Breaking news: we’re all indoctrinated. That’s why men typically don’t run around wearing dresses, for example.

Perhaps we should examine your beliefs for indoctrination? To use your indoctrination as an excuse to remove your bodily autonomy.

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Re:Iran installs cameras in public places to identify, penal... by mc32 on Saturday April 08, 2023 @02:32PM (#35496201)
Agreed, but I also think there is a difference between forced indoctrination at school (or other institution) versus culture at large.
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Re:Iran installs cameras in public places to identify, penal... by dahfizz on Saturday April 08, 2023 @05:49PM (#35497976)
Targeted propaganda from the government is not the same as cultural norms
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Re:Iran installs cameras in public places to identify, penal... by ramblenode on Saturday April 08, 2023 @08:15PM (#35498924)
How is this any different from belief in general? Most people's beliefs are a product of their culture. We are all indoctrinated, whether it's religion, nationalism, or tuna casserole.
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Re:Iran installs cameras in public places to identify, penal... by mc32 on Saturday April 08, 2023 @08:23PM (#35498967)
The ones handed down by institutions designed to indoctrinate you is different from culture in general which goes through natural filtering and change. Indoctrination usually follows some dogma with "interpreters" who tell you what it means.
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