Re:Iran installs cameras in public places to identify, penal...
by tadfisher on Saturday April 08, 2023 @02:07PM
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I feel like you're doing the classifying here. There is no single "left" position on this issue, because "the left" is not an entity. You got very close to self-awareness in your last paragraph, but projected onto it a twisted view of liberalism as an authoritarian morality police, which makes me question where you source your information.
Re:Iran installs cameras in public places to identify, penal...
by colechristensen on Saturday April 08, 2023 @06:35PM
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To be clear, I’m explicitly calling out the average liberal as increasingly advocating for authoritarian solutions on many societal issues. Not the fringe, not a few, but the majority of the political left in the US. Do other people not see this?
Re:Iran installs cameras in public places to identify, penal...
by tadfisher on Saturday April 08, 2023 @09:08PM
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You're going to have a hard time convincing others without naming those solutions and the mainstream liberal figures who support them.
In my experience, there's nothing exceptional about American liberalism in contrast with most of the Western world, while American conservatism has an unhealthy obsession with authoritarian solutions to problems that aren't problems: transgender people, women who don't want to be pregnant, people who want to marry those of the same sex, and books about any of the above that children might read.
Trying to support other cultures (admirable) by encouraging oppressive practices (troubling). Not seeming to understand that very much of the women’s clothing is worn out of fear ranging from family shaming to extreme violence.
The far and even moderate left is becoming increasingly bigoted classifying people into bins and setting behavior standards. You’re not just a person you’re a complex set of race, gender, and creed and you have to stay in that lane or you’re immoral. It’s all very odd.