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Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by int_19h on Friday April 07, 2023 @09:21PM (#35489408)
That's one of the possibilities, but if we're talking about those kinds of hypotheticals, allow me another one. If you recall, one of the themes of the later Dune books was that humanity was fleeing from the frontiers (The Scattering) back into the heartland from some unknown but extremely powerful enemy. Perhaps those were simply the neighboring species who did not have a Butlerian Jihad of their own?
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Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by ratherbefuddled on Saturday April 08, 2023 @02:23AM (#35491021)
They were fleeing AI.
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Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by int_19h on Saturday April 08, 2023 @02:35AM (#35491081)
I don't recall anything indicating that in Frank Herbert's original series. And Brian Herbert's "Omnius" nonsense seems to have very little to do with what Frank actually had in mind wrt Butlerian Jihad etc, so I don't consider it canonical.
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Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by disgruntledphd2 on Saturday April 08, 2023 @05:03AM (#35491725)
Book 4, Sonia's vision with Leto strongly implies that the problem is the machines.

Agreed that the endings done by others were incredibly bad.

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Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by int_19h on Saturday April 08, 2023 @04:18PM (#35497190)
It describes humans hiding from some kind of "seeker machines", which does indeed imply some kind of AI. But whether that AI is the enemy or merely one of its tools is left unclear.
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Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by disgruntledphd2 on Sunday April 09, 2023 @02:45PM (#35505316)
Yeah fair, when I re-read it after reading the (terrible) Anderson sequels, I was just surprised that the foreshadowing was in the originals.
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Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by GeoAtreides on Saturday April 08, 2023 @12:31PM (#35494936)
It wasn't the whole humanity fleeing back, it was just the HM, their lackeys and possible their hunters.
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