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Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by m463 on Friday April 07, 2023 @07:30PM (#35488490)

  "Often wrong, never in doubt."
An old saying, but frequently applies to the difficult people in your life.

Related, I remember when wikipedia first started up, and teachers everywhere were up-in-arms about it, asking their students not to use it as a reference. But most people have accepted it as "good enough", and now that viewpoint is non-controversial. (some wikipedia entries are still carefully curated - makes you wonder)

Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by 8note on Friday April 07, 2023 @08:05PM (#35488828)
Re wikipedia, I think it's most interesting how you choose which pages are trustworthy and which ones are not, without doing a detailed analysis on all the sources listed.

What are the working heuristics?

Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by cultureswitch on Friday April 07, 2023 @08:05PM (#35488839)
What's terrible about some Wikipedia pages is when you personally don't know they are controversial.

It should be vastly more prominent when there are tensions on an article and even admins shouldn't have the power to hide this.

Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by howenterprisey on Friday April 07, 2023 @08:10PM (#35488893)
Admins do not, in fact, have the power to hide tensions on an article, as even the act of deletion produces public logs. Certainly if you don't know to look for them, you won't see them, though.
Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by ThunderSizzle on Saturday April 08, 2023 @07:14AM (#35492250)
The main page should become a disjointed piece of both sides writing areas of the article. Right now, admins pick the side and moderate the other away into the history.
Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by fl7305 on Saturday April 08, 2023 @02:29AM (#35491055)
Good point. Would it be that hard to write a Chrome plugin that adds a "Tensionmeter" to each Wikipedia page?

Based on the edit and discussion history, the Tensionmeter could be green, yellow, or red.

The different parts of the article text could be colorcoded according to similar metrics.

Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by m463 on Saturday April 08, 2023 @04:41PM (#35497392)
Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by ChatGTP on Friday April 07, 2023 @08:38PM (#35489088)
Yet I still am suspicious about wikipedia and only use it for pretty superficial research.

I've never read a wikipedia article and took it at face value. You might say we should treat all texts the same, and you might be right. But let's not pretend it's some beacon of truth ?

Re:We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not deba... by vkou on Friday April 07, 2023 @09:02PM (#35489275)
There's a million reasons for why Wikipedia is usually a good source of information, without being a good reference.

You know what can be a good reference? One or more of the references that Wikipedia cites at the bottom of the page.