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Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ... by hutzlibu on Friday April 07, 2023 @03:01AM (#35478938)
"Who’s gonna trust a human doctor to diagnose their stuff if the human brain holds 9 things and the AI holds thousands?"

The human brain can hold much more than 9 things and even though AI will be used in medicine broadly very soon, I really want the final diagnosis done by a human.

Once true AGI arrieves, I might change my opinion, but that might take a while.

Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ... by adalacelove on Friday April 07, 2023 @04:14AM (#35479412)
> AI will be used in medicine broadly very soon

We have been hearing this since forever.

Revolutions do happen but not the way we expect. My anecdotical experience: no one in my team of about 30 people developing SW uses ChatGPT or similar in their day to day. This may change, or not.

Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ... by staunton on Friday April 07, 2023 @04:48AM (#35479618)
AI is being used in medicine already. For example, in diagnostics. Most new diagnostics devices (e.g. CT scan, cardiograms) include AI systems that suggest an interpretation and point towards possible problems that a doctor might occasionally miss.

Granted, currently deployed systems are mostly awful, way behind the state of the art, and therefore mostly useless. Maybe it's because designing medical devices and getting them approved takes so long. Maybe it's because the manufacturers put AI in there for marketing purposes only, while assuming nobody will use the suggestiona anyway. In any case, I strongly expect the trend to continue and these systems to become very useful quite soon.

Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ... by kolinko on Friday April 07, 2023 @04:20AM (#35479454)
9 things is considered a standard for working memory (kind of like processor registers), for people with ADHD it's even less - 3-5.

Try writing a number from one piece of paper to another. If it's more than 7-9 numbers, you won't do it in one shot, unless you spend extra time memorizing it.

Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ... by alexvoda on Friday April 07, 2023 @07:27AM (#35480489)
The equivalent for computers would be L1 cache on the CPU which is tiny.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ... by kolinko on Saturday April 08, 2023 @03:29AM (#35491339)
More like cpu registers I would say :)
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ... by JohnFen on Friday April 07, 2023 @06:30PM (#35487893)
That can be increased quite a bit with practice. But it's also not important. It's just the cache memory -- it isn't the limit of what can be learned and recalled.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ... by kolinko on Saturday April 08, 2023 @03:35AM (#35491374)
It is a limit on what you can reason about without a piece of paper.

I’m proficient at math, but my working memory is around 6, so I cannot add two three digit numbers to each other in my head (unless I see numbers to be added in front of me).

Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ... by JohnFen on Monday April 10, 2023 @10:56AM (#35513093)
OK, but I and nearly all of my friends can, so we have duelling anecdotes here.