Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by spondylosaurus on Friday April 07, 2023 @12:33AM
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Notion going all-in on the "AI" stuff is annoying/concerning to me. Mostly just that I live and die by a personal Notion wiki to keep my life organized, and if they eventually tank their service by investing too many resources into features that don't take off and I have to find a new tool to offload my brain into, I'm gonna be pissed...
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by eitland on Friday April 07, 2023 @02:33AM
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I went with Logseq and for the first time in a number of years (actually since OneNote 2016, the last self hosted version) I am actually happy with my tooling again.
It doesn't cover everything OneNote 2016 did, but it does a lot more in other areas and it is progressing nicely.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by spondylosaurus on Friday April 07, 2023 @02:56AM
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This looks great! Do they have a (decent) mobile app? Being able to jot stuff down whenever, wherever is a make-or-break feature for me...
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by eitland on Friday April 07, 2023 @03:32AM
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The app is already usable, but for now sync is a bit rough around the edges, i.e., I need to verify it is synced or it will overwrite and I have to fix it using the page history which thankfully exist.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by fomine3 on Friday April 07, 2023 @01:17AM
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English speakers tend to miss a huge use case: Translation.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by rvz on Friday April 07, 2023 @04:35AM
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A 'use-case' done worse with LLMs. Translation is already done without a hallucinating AI. [0]
Summarization of existing text is the *only* safe and serious use-case.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by staunton on Friday April 07, 2023 @04:54AM
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How is summarization "safe"? The summary might be wrong just as well.
The use-case is anything where occasional bullshit output is an acceptable downside to speeding up. More reliable outputs will enable more use-cases.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by alexvoda on Friday April 07, 2023 @07:39AM
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And what is a business that is fine with occasional (or frequent) bullshit output? Fake-news and spam.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by staunton on Friday April 07, 2023 @07:47AM
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Every business is fine with some frequency of bullshit output at some level. The question is how often exactly it happens and how much harm the bullshit can cause.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by alexvoda on Friday April 07, 2023 @08:23AM
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My point was that spam is the perfect use case for this tech.
Of course there are other possible use cases, but spam and fake news content creation are the perfect fit. AI will enable one to easily clone the writing style of any publication and insert whatever bullshit content and keep up with the publishing cycle with almost zero workforce.
Want a flat-earther version of New York Times (The New York Flat Times)? Done. Want a just slightly insidiously fascist version of NPR? Done. Want a pro-Nato version of RussiaToday (WestRussiaToday)? Done.
And we already know people share stuff without checking for veracity and reliability first.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by fomine3 on Friday April 07, 2023 @05:53AM
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Machine translation is already not reliable even without LLMs, so it's not weak point of LLM translation.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by int_19h on Friday April 07, 2023 @03:21PM
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GPT-4 translates much better than anything else out there, esp. when it comes to idioms and manner of speech.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by lionkor on Friday April 07, 2023 @05:11AM
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DeepL.com? You dont need a general purpose LLM to do translation.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by og_kalu on Friday April 07, 2023 @10:52AM
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GPT-4 is a much better translator than Deepl especially for far apart languages.
Re:Behind the curtain: what it feels like to work in AI righ...
by numpad0 on Friday April 07, 2023 @08:24AM
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I do wonder where LLM translator would take us to, considering that Japanese version of Bing Image Creator[0] is still proudly displaying a complete nonsense…
0: https://www.bing.com/create
作成 *芸術* 開始日
AI を使用した単語
Techies will realize that they are just giving ideas to O̶p̶e̶n̶AI.com, Microsoft Word, Google Docs and Notion. It is just the same AI bros re-selling their hallucinating snake oil chatbot that are under a new narrative for AI.
There is a reason why the only safe serious use-case of LLMs is summarization of existing text, since everything else it does is untrustworthy and is complete bullshit.
Their so-called 'revolution' is a grift.