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Re:Tesla Master Plan Part 3 by ben_w on Thursday April 06, 2023 @08:50AM (#35467659)
The point of Starship is Mars; Mars cannot be done with Starship in the absence of a box that fits in its own cargo bay, and which takes in sunlight, CO2, and water, and outputs methane and oxygen.

Fortunately some French scientists figured that out how to do that 126 years ago.

Re:Tesla Master Plan Part 3 by cma on Thursday April 06, 2023 @12:25PM (#35470703)
They are spooling up commercial passenger rocket flights (for cross-continent travel) in 5 years and won't likely have renewable sources by then, they have already put in or filed to put it pipelines for petro industry gas sources in Texas.
Re:Tesla Master Plan Part 3 by ben_w on Thursday April 06, 2023 @12:41PM (#35470937)
"Spooling up"? It's currently an un-launched prototype that isn't yet human-rated let alone passenger rated.

Why do you think they can move faster on that than on tech invented prior to the birth of the oldest currently living human?

Re:Tesla Master Plan Part 3 by cma on Friday April 07, 2023 @03:16AM (#35479017)
They gave the timeline for entering passenger service competing with long haul aviation back in 2018, sayijg within a decade. Years later they reconfirmed that timeline.
Re:Tesla Master Plan Part 3 by ben_w on Friday April 07, 2023 @06:28AM (#35480125)
You're willing to buy his estimate for a timeline about a thing you don't like (I've seen him talk, even he knows his timelines are optimistic, and he shows much the same optimism about FSD) while totally ignoring the thing invented before any living human was born and which is already deployed in various places?

Why?