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Re:Perspective 2.0, Open Source WebAssembly-Powered BI by egeozcan on Thursday April 06, 2023 @02:26AM (#35464878)
> That criterion has been there since 1999.

Apparently 2001. But well, I'm learning and improving am I not? I was a worse web developer a decade ago than I am now, and I am proud of that.

> Stop being so hostile.

You are the one who analyzed my personal website and reported a single color contrast issue to dismiss my complaint, why am I hostile? Regardless of that discussion, isn't my point coming across: Do we need to be authority on issues we report?

I tried to help, linked some resources, why is that wrong? I feel rather you being hostile.

> Ironically on the referenced page they make the same mistake as you regarding color shades.

Okay now you get to criticize open source libraries?

Anyway, few years ago I created an SVG based charting library for internal use, and we did (and still have) users with sight impairments, and yes it is hard to make it right. NVDA is a pain to bring under control, at least :) And a colleague of mine said something I really like: You cannot make software completely accessible, even for a perfectly capable person with above-human IQ, no, but you can make it always more accessible. It's great that they are trying!

> I can do this all day

What you are doing is something I sincerely don't understand.

Re:Perspective 2.0, Open Source WebAssembly-Powered BI by supermatt on Thursday April 06, 2023 @11:42AM (#35469949)
>> That criterion has been there since 1999.

> Apparently 2001

Nope, May 1999: https://www.w3.org/standards/history/WAI-WEBCONTENT

> I do apologize

No problem.

Re:Perspective 2.0, Open Source WebAssembly-Powered BI by egeozcan on Thursday April 06, 2023 @12:13PM (#35470497)
> No problem.

So apparently I didn't have to second-guess myself :)

> Nope, May 1999

That's not what you think it is: https://www.w3.org/TR/1999/WAI-WEBCONTENT-19990324/wai-pagea...

The one which the previous version of my site failed to validate is apparently published in 2008: https://www.w3.org/standards/history/WCAG20 and when I wrote those styles back in who knows when [edit: found it, 2014 https://web.archive.org/web/20141219164444/https://egeozcan.... ], I wasn't aware of it. I first said 2001 because I looked at the first draft.

Re:Perspective 2.0, Open Source WebAssembly-Powered BI by supermatt on Thursday April 06, 2023 @12:44PM (#35470984)
> That's not what you think it is:

Its exactly what I think it is: "Ensure that foreground and background color combinations provide sufficient contrast" (with reference to lighthouse.org for specifics about contrast).

They didn't specifically define that ratio in the doc until WCAG 2, but thats irrelevant really.

Re:Perspective 2.0, Open Source WebAssembly-Powered BI by egeozcan on Thursday April 06, 2023 @12:47PM (#35471027)
> They didn't specifically define "sufficient" until WCAG 2, but thats irrelevant really.

It is relevant. I didn't have any means to test it, and that's what I saw as sufficient back then. You never admit you were wrong, I assume?

edit: you edited your comment, so here is the lighthouse.org page: https://web.archive.org/web/20080211110529/http://www.lighth... There was no ratio, so it's just my gut feeling which WCAG 2 had apparently decided was not enough and I didn't know it back then - not that there were enough tooling.

Re:Perspective 2.0, Open Source WebAssembly-Powered BI by supermatt on Thursday April 06, 2023 @01:07PM (#35471314)
They explain how to test it on the WCAG link you gave. I never said they mentioned a ratio on the lighthouse page. Pretty sure i have not been wrong about anything in this discussion so far... Shall we continue?
Re:Perspective 2.0, Open Source WebAssembly-Powered BI by egeozcan on Thursday April 06, 2023 @01:17PM (#35471443)
Oh you were (like your very last points even), you just keep changing focus. But I'll let it be because I have no more time for these. good luck with your further discussions :)
Re:Perspective 2.0, Open Source WebAssembly-Powered BI by supermatt on Thursday April 06, 2023 @01:34PM (#35471666)
My focus has solely been on the contrast aspect, as per my original post. But at least we have cleared up your misunderstandings, so I guess we can leave it there. Have a good day!
Re:Perspective 2.0, Open Source WebAssembly-Powered BI by egeozcan on Thursday April 06, 2023 @01:39PM (#35471740)
Perhaps you need to re-read, it was never just the contrast, see my first reply to you, and try to understand my point, which you yourself proved later.

You were right from the start, I had created a site 9 years ago that gets only 65 points in an accessibility check today! So I can't suggest anyone to focus on accessibility?!

You too have a nice day!