Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t...
by smsm42 on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:35PM
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You can have Urban setting without the squalor that is currently swallowing the Bay Area. I know it because I have seen it - in the same place. The difference between what I have seen in SF when I came there for the first time, in early 2000s, and what I am seeing now, in 2023, is striking. Everybody has a long list of reasons why, but the basics are clear here I think - it's not that you can't have urban setting with reasonable quality of life. It's that somehow whatever is being done in the Bay Area does not lead to this - very possible otherwise - outcome. It's not some inevitable law of nature - it's what people do, how they organize their society, and it's clear that the way they do it now leads to some consequences and so far they are not intent to change their ways substantially - so the consequences will continue.
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Re:Bob Lee, Former CTO Square, Creator of CashApp, Stabbed t...
by DeusExMachina on Thursday April 06, 2023 @07:24AM
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I live in an urban setting, Amsterdam, 1M+ inhabitants in the area. I barely know my neighbors. And yet, the description of the parent could apply to life here.
I once forgot a briefcase on the street out of a bar in the center after work. I realized only when I got home. I got back there, sure that I would not find it anymore. I come from Italy and that is just the norm there.
Not only I found it, but someone moved it out of the way of the bike rack where I forgot it. So it was definitely noticed, and yet nobody took it.
Another anecdote. Once at a dancing event, the organizer just left and went to sleep. He told me that if people wanted a drink, they could just grab one from the fridge and put money in the money box. Where I come from, the fridge would have been emptied and the money box would have disappeared.
It's not a matter of urban vs. rural. It's a matter of culture.