Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by seabird on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:09PM
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You can't just make the Traxxas 18x bigger and get linear performance improvement. Trying to compare power/weight between engines with radically different weight constraints is silly.
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by 93po on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:13PM
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Ok, a Kawasaki H2R engine makes 326 horsepower and weighs about 160 pounds running regular fuel. That's almost identical to the Traxxas - 1hp for 0.49 pounds.
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by seabird on Thursday April 06, 2023 @08:18PM
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That engine is 4x heavier and supercharged. You're not comparing apples to apples.
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by 93po on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @12:48PM
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my point is that this ratio exists both much smaller and also somewhat larger. it makes sense this same ratio would be possible in the middle of the two as well. also diesels have super/turbo chargers all the time on production engines, why is that cheating?
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by syrrim on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:29PM
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If you had 18 such engines it would get you precisely 18x the performance, at precisely 18x the weight.
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by Retric on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:44PM
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No, because you would need to add structural elements, some way of combining power output, and cooling if you’re aiming for a similar form factor.
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by aidenn0 on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:42PM
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And precisely 1/18 the MTBF
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by 93po on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:05PM
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In a way, sure. Often when a car engine fails people just replace it. If you were to replace all 18 when the first one failed, the same way you would with a regular car engine, it's not 1/18 the MTBF. And if it was just 1 failing prematurely and you replaced only that one, you also see that same dynamic with car engines.
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by pas on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:54PM
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but it fails gracefully, right? (only one engine fails at a time)
it's like RAID, great until the RAID card itself fails
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by aidenn0 on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @06:50PM
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It's probably most like losing power in a single cylinder; the effects vary from engine to engine.
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by jacquesm on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @06:55PM
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They tend to seize and when they do and you gang them they'll likely break stuff in the other ones unless you add a freewheel or some other luxury like that.
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by seabird on Thursday April 06, 2023 @08:13PM
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That's why there's all sorts of widely produced performance vehicles with multiple independent engines!
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by cjbgkagh on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @12:10PM
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I've read about a lot of people complaining about the difficulty of getting the mixture right, perhaps that might be a show stopper for a UAV that must reliably work unattended for a long time. Though the military should also be able to get such mixtures down to a science - so I don't know.
Re:“Inside-out Wankel” rotary engine delivers 5X the power o...
by kortex on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @01:47PM
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> Granted an RC engine runs on a mixture of fuel and nitromethane
That's a huge difference. The main limiting factor in engine power is mass air flow, not fuel. Engines are as much air pumps as they are containers for extracting expansion from explosions. Nitromethane provides extra oxidizer in liquid form, putting nitro engines in some ways closer to rocket engines in terms of power-to-weight ratio.
This is 1hp per 0.46 pounds of engine weight, nearly three times better than the camry engine.
Granted an RC engine runs on a mixture of fuel and nitromethane, and doesn't have any reasonable durability compare to a Camry engine. But it also only costs $200.