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Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by fluidcruft on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:04AM (#35453448)
Have deaths as a result of police violence decreased?
Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by qgin on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:11AM (#35453546)
https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/your-sfpd/published-repor...

This doesn't get into any context or whether anyone died as a result, but from the available data, the highest number of incidents where someone was shot by police in SF was 11 in 2010, the lowest number was 2 in 2021.

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by fluidcruft on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:18AM (#35453653)
I would imagine the number of homicides those years is much higher than 11 or 2 (although you would probably want to exclude homicides that are related to domestic violence).
Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by tatersolid on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:41AM (#35453984)
> although you would probably want to exclude homicides that are related to domestic violence

Why? I’m certain more than one police officer has had to fire their weapon while responding to a domestic violence situation.

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by cdolan on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:09AM (#35453519)
Is the logical conclusion to this line of thought that any fewer deaths from police violence justifies a metropolitan area falling into socio-economic collapse?
Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by fluidcruft on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:14AM (#35453603)
Not really it's a question about outcomes. Deaths of innocent people are bad. Is it just for a system to kill one group of innocent people so that a different group of people feel safer?

Overall deaths seems like the correct metric.

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by cdolan on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:29AM (#35453808)
Its hard to measure accurately but I would argue easy to observe and ascertain the following:

If a metro area becomes a literal Gotham City (ie drug and crime completely integrated into daily life) then the outcome is decades of lost human experience across hundreds of thousands (millions?) of people.

Addressing police brutality is one hard to solve problem, but cameras and other initiatives seem to be helping. But your city turning into a crime haven creates thousands of problems, and may not be able to solve.

Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by HL33tibCe7 on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:08AM (#35453511)
Deaths from “police violence” are extremely uncommon - when they do happen, it is plastered all over the newspapers for months.
Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by chitowneats on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @09:33AM (#35453863)
Not necessarily. Depends on the race of the victim. Nobody gave a flying fuck about Tony Timpa.
Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by diebeforei485 on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @03:28PM (#35459229)
I love how people turn to examples from a thousand miles away when talking about policing in SF.
Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by bart_spoon on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @06:55PM (#35461608)
Minneapolis is 2,038 miles away from San Francisco. Would you say that George Floyd’s death had an effect of any kind on policing in SF?
Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by chitowneats on Thursday April 06, 2023 @12:35AM (#35464174)
Zero self-awareness. Incredible.
Re:Former Square CTO Bob Lee Stabbed to Death in Downtown Sa... by chitowneats on Thursday April 06, 2023 @12:55AM (#35464288)
LMFAO did you even read your own comment??????

Tell me more about local hero George Floyd.

Absolute retardation.