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Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by toomanyrichies on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @02:08PM (#35443704)
> America as you know it today, with all its prosperity, was created by people who were spanked as children.

It was also created by people who practiced bundling [1] as a courtship ritual, hanged people suspected of being witches [2], and used mercury as a treatment for melancholy [3].

Out of all the practices you could have picked as a cause of America's current prosperity, why on Earth would you go with beating kids?

You're smart enough to know the difference between correlation and causation. Do you have evidence that physical discipline was the reason America became the country it is today?

If you don't have such evidence, how do you know that we wouldn't have been even more prosperous without corporal punishment as a child-rearing method?

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundling_(tradition)

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials

3. https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2017/10/22/mercury-was-...

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by rayiner on Wednesday April 05, 2023 @11:56AM (#35456256)
It’s not an incidental correlation—something that happened to exist at the same time as contemporary societies were being built. Cultures all over the world came to the conclusion that physical discipline produced better behaved kids. Europeans only changed their view in the last generation or so, and in Asia, it’s still the dominant view.

By contrast, cultures that stopped using physical discipline are almost universally in decline. On the European continent, for example, post-Christians who don’t use physical discipline are being outcompeted by Muslims who do.