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Re:Why paid masterminds are mental masturbation by MuffinFlavored on Monday April 03, 2023 @04:57PM (#35431179)
> If you could hire Michael Jordan as a personal coach, could he help you play better basketball? Certainly.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dinner-with-jay-z-or-500k

> Will he tell you something you couldn't learn else where? Probably not.

> Now, instead of a personal coach, Michael Jordan brings on Karl Malone, Stockton, Pippen, AI, and few other 90s all-star players, and you get a chance to meet with them weekly.

If I was able to have weekly meetings with Warren Buffet, Jamie Dimon, Tim Cook, and Elon Musk about "how to do business/grow a business I was in control of", how often do you think their ideas would be in alignment versus basically conflicting?

> Michael Jordan tried his hand at three positions during his years in the NBA career. They are Shooting Guard (SG), Small Forward (SF), and Point Guard (PG).

> Karl Malone, Nicknamed "the Mailman", he is considered one of the greatest power forwards in NBA history.

> One of the NBA's best-ever pure point guards, John Stockton is the NBA's all-time steals and assists leader.

> Scottie Pippen: Position: Small Forward

> Allen Iverson: Position: Shooting Guard and Point Guard

Could any of them combine and tell Steph Curry how to play whatever position he is today (magical mythical 3 point drainer)? If each of them had different attributes/style, what could they collectively come together to agree on/teach you on?

> point guard (PG) or 1, the shooting guard (SG) or 2, the small forward (SF) or 3, the power forward (PF) or 4, and the center (C) or 5.

Can any of them teach you how to be a great center?

Re:Why paid masterminds are mental masturbation by balls187 on Monday April 03, 2023 @05:36PM (#35431618)
$500k probably wouldn't get me dinner with Beyonce. But dinner with Jay-Z might. I'd go with Jay-Z. Also, I could on my own raise $500k for a startup. Dinner with Jay-Z, I would have the opportunity to raise significantly more.

> If I was able to have weekly meetings with Warren Buffet, Jamie Dimon, Tim Cook, and Elon Musk about "how to do business/grow a business I was in control of", how often do you think their ideas would be in alignment versus basically conflicting?

I wouldn't be able to estimate. Of the three I am aware of, they're all very different, so me personally, I would relish the commonalities, and the diversity of their viewpoints, allowing myself to select which ones resonate best with me.

> Could any of them combine and tell Steph Curry how to play whatever position he is today (magical mythical 3 point drainer)? If each of them had different attributes/style, what could they collectively come together to agree on/teach you on?

Steph Curry? Unsure. While not likely to help him with basketball fundamentals given he is already a superstar in his own right, but I could imagine they would be able to offer their viewpoints on rivalries/post career life/ etc.

> Can any of them teach you how to be a great center?

Great? No. But they would make better than I could be elsewhere. At the very least, it would give me some inspiration to emulate some of their habits.

Re:Why paid masterminds are mental masturbation by MuffinFlavored on Monday April 03, 2023 @08:10PM (#35433259)
> I would relish the commonalities

What commonalities might they have that you can't learn in business school?

"profit good, losses bad?"

Re:Why paid masterminds are mental masturbation by balls187 on Monday April 03, 2023 @09:32PM (#35433832)
You tell me, Muffin man.
Re:Why paid masterminds are mental masturbation by throwaway173738 on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:17AM (#35440012)
relishing commonalities sounds great, but what does that mean specifically? How would getting all these people in a room help you learn anything? It seems like you’re engaging in the same kind of fluff the author is decrying.
Re:Why paid masterminds are mental masturbation by balls187 on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @08:04PM (#35447474)
I don't think any answer I provide is going to help your lack of imagination.

However, one of the things they teach you before meeting with an advisor is to have an agenda, and have an ask.

I'd start there, and see how things go.