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Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by pclmulqdq on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:15PM (#35429700)
All my objections to Tesla were validated after I took one for a test drive. It felt cheap, the ride was fine but nothing special, and the control scheme (with that touchscreen) was awful. I also can't agree with you at all on the handling. It certainly handles better than a Honda accord, but nowhere near a 911 unless you're driving in a straight line. Teslas are hard to beat in a straight line thanks to the torque from the electric motors.

Also, as a practical matter, you have to ride the accelerator pedal in a Tesla because the car will roll to a stop in a very short distance if you don't. With most other cars, you can hover your foot over the brake to prepare for an emergency. I assume that some fraction of the people whose Teslas "accelerated out of control" when they were trying to hit the brake didn't realize this.

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Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by bottlepalm on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:37PM (#35430033)
When you get used to it, driving other cars just feel dangerous. Like if for any reason if your feet leave the pedals the car will just fly out of control and not slow down.

Even taking your foot off the brake at an intersection will cause the car to drive right into it. That seems crazy when coming from a car that when it is stopped, it remains stopped.

Holding the brake is like holding the trigger of a grenade.

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Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by pclmulqdq on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:42PM (#35430107)
It may seem odd, but it is pretty key to reaction time - studies on this have shown that it takes about 2 seconds for an emergency stop when you're actively using the accelerator pedal (which is almost 100% of the time your Tesla is rolling forward), while it only takes a little under a second to do an emergency stop when your foot is over the brake. The car rolling forward when no pedal is applied is actually a safety feature, weirdly (although an accidental one).
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Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by bottlepalm on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:49PM (#35430228)
Yea, but the Tesla can brake faster automatically in an emergency faster than I can realize an emergency is happening.

And again, when I drive cars that don't slow down without input, or creep, it just feels more out of control and dangerous. The Tesla is inherently safer by quickly slowing down when no input is applied.

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Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by pclmulqdq on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:54PM (#35430311)
(citation needed)

I'm sure that it feels safer, but a lot of people felt safer in cars without airbags too.

Also, relying only on auto-braking is a really bad idea. A lot of people have died doing that (not just in Teslas). It works 99.9% of the time, but that other 0.1%...

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Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by bottlepalm on Monday April 03, 2023 @04:16PM (#35430625)
Having a car quickly slow down and stop automatically is inherently safer. Most other cars will continue coasting/creeping until they hit something. There's really no way to spin how that is better/safer.
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Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by twblalock on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:20PM (#35429788)
The single-pedal braking can be turned off in the settings. I have no idea why coasting and hovering over the brake is ever a good idea in any circumstances, but if you really want to do that, you can.
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Re:Tesla removes parking sensors, the results are predictabl... by prettychill on Monday April 03, 2023 @04:27PM (#35430782)
if you are driving defensively? you may think there is potential for brake usage in the upcoming section of highway, so you might take your foot off the accelerator and hover the brake just in case. I believe this is pretty common.

at least when I drove a model s this wasn't really possible because the car would slow rapidly when I took my foot off the accelerator. nice to know that can be disabled, ill look for it next time I'm driving a tesla

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