Ask HN: Is Eliezer Yudkowsky a genius playing the long game?

Re:Ask HN: Is Eliezer Yudkowsky a genius playing the long game? by warrenm on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:08PM (#35429596)

IOW, he's trying to position himself as a modernday Luddite-esque prophet?

If you make enough predicitons, some are [almost] guaranteed to come true :)

I've never heard of this Yudkowsky fella before you mentioned him - which may not mean much (or maybe it does ... I think I'm pretty aware of "big names" in a lot of arenas)

Is there any reason we should listen to him, in particluar, over and above every else pontificating on the short-, medium-, and long-term impacts and implications of ML?

>Given that there WILL be a major backlash in the future (far more major than what we see today)

Upon what do you base this opinion?

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Re:Ask HN: Is Eliezer Yudkowsky a genius playing the long game? by uejfiweun on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:11PM (#35429640)

I think the reason people are paying attention to Yudkowski are because 1. he’s a well known figure in the ‘rationalist’ community and 2. his recommendations on what to do with AI are the most ‘out-there’ that anyone has made, so naturally the clickbait media is spreading the message far and wide.

RE the backlash prediction, I’m basing it off pure conjecture. However I’d bet $500 that I’ll be right on this one. Artists, musicians, writers, etc are already not happy with the CURRENT tools and I think they’re gonna have a lot more professions joining their ranks soon.

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Re:Ask HN: Is Eliezer Yudkowsky a genius playing the long game? by warrenm on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:22PM (#35429813)

>Artists, musicians, writers, etc are already not happy with the CURRENT tools and I think they’re gonna have a lot more professions joining their ranks soon

'creatives' have been upset every time new tools have come out

Because democratizing access makes artisans's jobs different (not harder, not easier, just different)

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Re:Ask HN: Is Eliezer Yudkowsky a genius playing the long game? by uejfiweun on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:27PM (#35429906)

Oh, you're definitely not wrong. But what I'm trying to say is that the current backlash by these creatives is going to look VERY different once other professions get disrupted. Especially legal. There are going to be a lot of pissed off lawyers out there and you can bet your ass that at least some of them are gonna try to use the legal system to implement Yudkowski's vision.

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