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Re:Safari releases are development hell by vlovich123 on Monday April 03, 2023 @09:40AM (#35423375)
Microsoft went to court over that because they were leveraging their OS monopoly into a browser monopoly. Microsoft always let you install alternatives by the waybut IE was the default and most people don’t change defaults.

Apple is not a monopoly unless you’re just looking at mobile profits, which historically is not how a monopoly is defined (they’re not even a monopoly in the luxury smartphone market). Android is actually much closer to being a monopoly and does all sorts of deals to maintain their monopolies on search, browsers, and Android which would warrant investigation. Now maybe a monopoly should be defined as % of total profits in a market? Not sure. It would be breaking new regulatory ground for sure.

Also, from the sounds of it, Apple is going to be forced to allow third party browsers and app stores via EU regulation. It’s less clear exactly how that will work and whether that will be available to customers in other jurisdictions.

Re:Safari releases are development hell by scarface74 on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:19PM (#35426506)
I knew this bit of false internet lore was going to come up.

Out of all the things that the justice system was throwing at MS, bundling IE was the least of them and absolutely nothing changed about browser bundling in the US. No there was never a browser choice mandate.

Re:Safari releases are development hell by vlovich123 on Monday April 03, 2023 @04:28PM (#35430796)
That’s true. The main focus was on forcing OEMs to bundle Windows for kickbacks. The browser stuff came out of the EU.
Re:Safari releases are development hell by scarface74 on Monday April 03, 2023 @05:01PM (#35431222)
As is true with most laws involving tech and the EU.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/12/windo...

> While there were early signs that the browser ballot screen was influencing browser usage in the EU, with Mozilla attributing some European Firefox growth to the selection page, long-term trends strongly suggest that it was next to useless. In spite of equally prominent placement on the selection screen, Opera's share even within Europe appears to have declined over the last five years. So too have Firefox and Internet Explorer. Chrome, however, has experienced significant growth.

Re:Safari releases are development hell by 411111111111111 on Monday April 03, 2023 @02:52PM (#35429339)
> Android is actually much closer to being a monopoly

Thats only true outside of the US though. iOS is >60% in the USA.

Re:Safari releases are development hell by vlovich123 on Monday April 03, 2023 @04:29PM (#35430816)
Not sure where that number comes from. [1] indicates Apple broke 50% for the first time ever in Q3 2022. I doubt they’ve pole vaulted to 60% the past few quarters.

[1] https://9to5mac.com/2022/09/02/iphone-us-market-share/