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Re:Paris Votes to Ban Rental E-Scooters by apichat on Monday April 03, 2023 @02:58AM (#35419536)
In Paris each years 90 persons are not "nearly mown down" by rental escooters but killed by cars, taxis and motorcycle. Plus thousands of people killed by toxic gases from cars, taxis and motorbikes.
Re:Paris Votes to Ban Rental E-Scooters by alpaca128 on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:41AM (#35419891)
How does that justify e-scooters compared to, say, decent bike lanes and better infrastructure planning?
Re:Paris Votes to Ban Rental E-Scooters by vetinari on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:35AM (#35419824)
> Plus thousands of people killed by toxic gases from cars, taxis and motorbikes.

Please substantiate this claim. Thank you.

Re:Paris Votes to Ban Rental E-Scooters by ggrelet on Monday April 03, 2023 @05:08AM (#35420548)
Re:Paris Votes to Ban Rental E-Scooters by vetinari on Monday April 03, 2023 @05:29AM (#35420711)
Air polution != "toxic gases from cars, taxis and motorbikes". That's only subset. Cities were dirty holes (including bad air) centuries before invention of cars.

Continuing, they didn't measure anything. They estimated.

Re:Paris Votes to Ban Rental E-Scooters by apichat on Monday April 03, 2023 @05:28AM (#35420708)
Have a good reading :

In Paris, air pollution kills 5,400 people every year

https://www-francebleu-fr.translate.goog/infos/transports/a-...

https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/transports/a-paris-la-pollut...

Air pollution is responsible for more than 5,000 deaths each year in Paris according to a study published on Wednesday. Published in the Lancet Planetary Health journal, it calculated premature deaths linked to PM2.5 fine particle pollution and nitrogen dioxide (NO2) in 1,000 European cities. The French capital appears to be one of the cities where automobile pollution kills the most.

Re:Paris Votes to Ban Rental E-Scooters by vetinari on Monday April 03, 2023 @05:34AM (#35420764)
As to the sibling: air pollution != "toxic gases from cars, taxis and motorbikes". Your linked article says "road traffic, industry, airports, ports, but also wood and coal heating".

Furthermore, the lancet paper only estimates, they didn't measure anything. The linked article presents an hypothesis as if it was proved. It was not.

Re:Paris Votes to Ban Rental E-Scooters by marginalia_nu on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:49AM (#35419945)
This poses a false dichotomy where you're either riding a car, or littering the streets with rental e-scooters. In practice, this isn't the case. It's fairly well documented e-scooters aren't replacing car rides, but pedestrian traffic.