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Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by deanCommie on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:31AM (#35418580)
And to force schools to disclose information that their children don't feel safe revealing to them (like LGBTQ status), knowing that it could cause their religious parents to completely destroy their lives through things that are banned in most of the civilized world but not in the US (conversion therapy, etc)

It's a tough balance.

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by jimkoen on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:47AM (#35419939)
> It's a tough balance.

Sarcasm? We have both privacy and free roam rights for children in germany.

Talk about sane legislature!

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by rendall on Monday April 03, 2023 @07:55AM (#35421960)
Agreed. As an American raising a child in Europe, it's also strange that what I believe to be perfectly reasonable positions like "My child should have the right to play outside unbothered by police or busy-bodies", are not only opposed, but opposed because of other unrelated culture-war reasons. The reasoning seems to be that because (e.g.) some states allow parents to hit their children or otherwise do things that (I agree) are reprehensible, therefore parents should not have the right to allow their children outside. Baffling.
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by coryfklein on Monday April 03, 2023 @11:55AM (#35425965)
And yet home schooling is completely illegal in Germany, something that would be a complete deal breaker for me. But perhaps that speaks more to how bad public school is in the US, maybe it's freaking amazing in Germany?
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by ihaveabeardnow on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:28PM (#35429910)
I'm with you on this. Maybe it speaks a bit to opinions on public schools in the US, but even free access to the best public school in the world doesn't (imo) give someone the right to force it on others.
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by wolfgangK on Monday April 03, 2023 @04:28AM (#35420280)
It might be my deficient theory of mind, but I cannot tell what you mean by «completely destroy their lives» and «conversion therapy» : do you mean self acceptance as gay of attempted biological conversion to match the sexual attraction with amputation and castration ?
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by Macha on Monday April 03, 2023 @07:00AM (#35421475)
Conversion therapy is the process of industrial scale bullying LGBT children into presenting as straight, with many such places going miles past the line of child abuse.

It's nothing to do with SRS, which is not offered to children anyway, so your dislike of that is irrelevant.

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by hubankub on Monday April 03, 2023 @11:35AM (#35425530)
Breast amputations at 12 years old, genital surgery at 16. It is being done to children.
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by SauciestGNU on Monday April 03, 2023 @08:29AM (#35422378)
Conversion therapy is a form of torture usually based in Christianity that uses coercion and psychological pressure to force queer people to "fix" themselves and identify as cisgender heterosexual.