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Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by kelseyfrog on Sunday April 02, 2023 @11:53PM (#35418369)
We may never know. It is frustrating as a parent to be held to the social expectations of those at the most extreme ends of normative conviction. It speaks volumes that we mediate these interactions through police rather than through mutual dialogue.
Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by jrumbut on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:00AM (#35418413)
Yeah, that's the part of your story I find most disturbing.

People will disagree on all kinds of issues, but would take a major crime for me to call the police on my neighbor. Imagine living next to someone after you did that?

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by jancsika on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:44AM (#35418647)
> It speaks volumes that we mediate these interactions through police rather than through mutual dialogue.

I wouldn't call the police on kids climbing trees.

But I'd attend a 3-hour timeshare pitch meeting at a Red Lobster before I'd have a 5 minute "mutual dialogue" with a parent about their kids' truly problematic behavior. (And I'm allergic to shellfish.)

Parents who can have mutual dialogues typically don't have kids who require them. And for the kids who desperately need them, community members seem to play a game of hot potato until somebody is finally forced to step in and confront the parents (typically after property damage).

Re:Giving kids no autonomy at all has become a parenting norm by yencabulator on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:49PM (#35430232)
The examples in the article are

> In the U.S. though, the police have been called, women arrested, and children taken into custody for finishing out a stroller nap in an enclosed backyard, using an iPad in a car for a few minutes, and playing in a park.

So, which ones of those are property damage to neighbors?