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Re:Reducing Iron Oxide with Ammonia: A Sustainable Path to G... by cyberax on Sunday April 02, 2023 @08:07PM (#35416827)
I don't get it. Why not just use methane?

It can be synthesized easily, we already have infrastructure to ship it around the world (just ask Putin for his opinion on that), and it's much less hazardous than ammonia.

Moreover, it doesn't require plants to switch to green methane right away. It can be done gradually and in a distributed fashion.

Re:Reducing Iron Oxide with Ammonia: A Sustainable Path to G... by 1letterunixname on Sunday April 02, 2023 @08:36PM (#35417058)
Drilling for methane adds GHGs to climate change.

For DRI, use a solar power tower to directly heat ore with "syngas" made similarly with solar heating and a renewable carbon source.

Such a setup can approach closed-loop production and emissions capture.

Re:Reducing Iron Oxide with Ammonia: A Sustainable Path to G... by cyberax on Sunday April 02, 2023 @09:43PM (#35417555)
Sure. But we also can synthesize methane from captured carbon dioxide and green hydrogen. It's still more expensive than fossil methane, but it's getting cheaper.

But we can start transitioning factories to use methane right now, starting from fossil methane and slowly moving to greener sources.

Re:Reducing Iron Oxide with Ammonia: A Sustainable Path to G... by 1letterunixname on Sunday April 02, 2023 @09:45PM (#35417562)
You're suggesting unworkable processes that would take an absolute crapton of energy and be very expense.
Re:Reducing Iron Oxide with Ammonia: A Sustainable Path to G... by cyberax on Sunday April 02, 2023 @11:36PM (#35418269)
Uhm... Which one? Reduction of iron ore with methane is energetically as good as anything else.

Synthetic methane is estimated right now to be about 2.5x the cost of fossil one when deployed at scale: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S187551002...

This is pretty reasonable.

Re:Reducing Iron Oxide with Ammonia: A Sustainable Path to G... by 8note on Sunday April 02, 2023 @10:29PM (#35417838)
It's not particularly unlikely that we'll have to tear down or repurpose all that methane transportation infrastructure once we prioritize that global warming caused by leaks in that infrastructure.

Transporting ammonia doesn't have the leaks-make-global-warming problem