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Re:Reducing Iron Oxide with Ammonia: A Sustainable Path to G... by ClumsyPilot on Sunday April 02, 2023 @05:09PM (#35415237)
Exactly, I struggle to see any situation, barring mismanagement or disaster, where you should be shipping tankers full of hydrogen byproducts like ammonia and losing most of the energy in the process.

We are currently importing all the natural gas in Europe, and both the price and carbon footrpint are more than double of what pipeline delivered from Russia.

You could build a pipeline from the middle east to Europe for hydrogen. We are already building powerplants in Sahara to export energy to EU. But I do not see why you should ever need to.

Iron ore and Aluminium ore is literally everywhere. We could move all of primary metal refining close to equator for solar power. China is close enough to equator, and produces huge quantities of Iron. Australia could be producing iron, they have plenty of sun.

Or Europe could produce hydrogen in the summer and store for the winter to keep refineries running.

Re:Reducing Iron Oxide with Ammonia: A Sustainable Path to G... by rainbowzootsuit on Sunday April 02, 2023 @05:40PM (#35415543)
Hydrogen, being so small, penetrates directly through the molecular structure of steel and in the process causes embrittlement of the steel. Is a long distance H2 pipeline a solved problem using alternate materials?
Re:Reducing Iron Oxide with Ammonia: A Sustainable Path to G... by ClumsyPilot on Sunday April 02, 2023 @09:24PM (#35417409)
I believe plastic pipes?
Re:Reducing Iron Oxide with Ammonia: A Sustainable Path to G... by yxhuvud on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:30AM (#35418573)
It is not. Thankfully the electricity required for hydrolysis can either be moved around or created sufficiently close to a steel plant.
Re:Reducing Iron Oxide with Ammonia: A Sustainable Path to G... by senectus1 on Monday April 03, 2023 @01:27AM (#35418890)
thats one reason why ammonia is a good choice. the storage requirements are much kinder to the transporter