Re:Entwined African and Asian genetic roots of medieval peop...
by jmopp on Saturday April 01, 2023 @03:25AM
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> The Bantu reached South Africa at roughly the same time the Dutch did.
That's a common misconception because the Bantu expansion didn't reach the Cape. But we have iron artefacts from Natal dating from the 400s.
Re:Entwined African and Asian genetic roots of medieval peop...
by thaumasiotes on Saturday April 01, 2023 @05:41PM
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> But we have iron artefacts from Natal dating from the 400s.
I'm open to learning more, but that doesn't seem like very strong evidence. Iron artifacts reached e.g. Mongolia long before anyone there was capable of making iron. Iron is very durable and very useful; it is one of two materials that is, as far as I know, universally traded for in every known culture that might conceivably have had access to a trade network featuring the object(s), the other being salt.
Re:Entwined African and Asian genetic roots of medieval peop...
by dagaci on Saturday April 01, 2023 @05:31AM
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The idea that bantu poplations are not native to south africa stems from colonial propaganda, to sanitize the land grab. Xhosa groups are known to have reached the Cape by the 11th century
It's not necessary to go back particularly far. The Bantu Expansion took place within the historical period. The ancient Egyptians wrote about (and painted) the African peoples of Kush to their south; those peoples are now extinct.
The Bantu reached South Africa at roughly the same time the Dutch did.