Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by khaki54 on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:16PM
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Doesn't mean a single one believed they were voting and skipped the polls due to this.
Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by nitwit005 on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:28PM
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This is a bizzare take. They were tricked, but also not tricked at the same time?
Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by justinzollars on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:07PM
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A meme is not a crime.
Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by jackvalentine on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:29PM
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“It’s just a joke bro” the ultimate criminal defence.
The prosecution established the defendant’s intent to reduce the turnout of black voters “ For example, on November 1, 2016, in or around the same time that Mackey was sending tweets suggesting the importance of limiting “black turnout,””
That’s mens rea.
Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by theRealMe on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:45PM
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Something being a meme does not make it a crime, but a crime being a meme does not make it legal.
Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by theRealMe on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:41PM
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Seriously what’s going on with multiple people in this thread?
crystal clear attempt to trick people into not voting
“Doesn’t count because no one fell for it” (as if that excuses it anyways…)
“Well actually 4900 people fell for it”
“ALL 4900 OF THOSE WERE JUST PEOPLE JOKING AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I PULLED IT OUT OF MY BUTT”
Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by justinzollars on Saturday April 01, 2023 @08:41AM
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> What is with people in this thread
I hate Democrats with all of my soul. They destroyed my city of San Francisco after all. But I would never prosecute someone who I disagree with. People say dishonest things every single day in politics. Do they deserve to go to jail for a decade because of it?
Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by xdmr on Monday April 03, 2023 @01:37PM
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I don't actually know if intent is sufficient in this case. So maybe if nobody actually fell for it (or they did, but the government didn't bother to submit any evidence of this) then that would excuse it in law. 4900 people might have texted the number, but maybe half of them didn't have a vote, and the other half figured it out later and ultimately did vote. Maybe not, but if you have a sworn statement from someone that they didn't vote because of this, then there's no ambiguity about whether the harm actually occurred.
Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by justinzollars on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:29PM
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Democrats have a highly sophisticated harvesting system. A ballot is worth about $7 and each ballot is cross referenced weeks leading up to and weeks following an election to ensure each one is turned in. If a voter doesn't want to vote, people show up at their door to assist them. In 2022 ballot curing was introduced to ensure that each ballot is filled out correctly. In addition to ballot curing, and harvesting, committees exist to judge voter intent. Given the economic incentives, political incentives, and very sophisticated partisan elections teams within Boards of elections, its unlikely a single person wasn't able to vote. Rather than 4,900 victims, how about they come up with a single name a single individual who wasn't able to vote. That person doesn't exist.
Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by justinzollars on Saturday April 01, 2023 @08:34AM
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By the way I should point out I used to do this. I am a former elected 2008 DNC Delegate - and I ran several campaigns.
Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by remarkEon on Friday March 31, 2023 @09:17PM
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Did DOJ produce anyone that was harmed by this meme? How many of the 4,900 "unique" numbers were other twitter followers who were in on the gag or recognized it for the obvious joke that it is?
Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by justinzollars on Saturday April 01, 2023 @08:33AM
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No. There isn't a single person who was disenfranchised by this internet meme.
Re:Douglass Mackey found guilty of election interference
by listenallyall on Sunday April 02, 2023 @03:43PM
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Dont you think a large number of those were people in on the joke, and texted as a way of upvoting? Or people who knew they weren't eligible to vote (too young, not registered, not a citizen) who thought maybe a text vote would allow them to be counted without the verification normally needed? The idea that Hillary Clinton lost 4900 legitimate votes is not even alleged, let alone proven.
- from the DOJ press release