Re:ChatGPT – The Revolutionary Bullshit Parrot
by JieJie on Friday March 31, 2023 @04:41PM
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Stochastic Parrot == Philosophical Zombie
Same concept, same difference.
Re:ChatGPT – The Revolutionary Bullshit Parrot
by kalkin on Friday March 31, 2023 @05:27PM
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Not really. The point of the philosophical zombie idea is that they'd be indistinguishable in behavior from conscious people. Part of the point of the stochastic parrots is that supposedly they can't accomplish the same things as genuine intelligence. That's testable.
Re:ChatGPT – The Revolutionary Bullshit Parrot
by JieJie on Saturday April 01, 2023 @02:08PM
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Fair point. I'm not sure if LLMs like GPT-4 haven't passed that test, but you're right about that particular distinction.
I think the larger point, that we don't have very reliable tests for these things, as we're finding out with the testing results that GPT-4 has been showing, is still valid; leading us to have difficulty telling whether GPT-4 is actually intelligent or if it is coming to its intelligent through other means. I think in that way the distinctions are the same.
Re:ChatGPT – The Revolutionary Bullshit Parrot
by lottin on Friday March 31, 2023 @05:40PM
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I have a strong reason to think that consciousness and intelligence are related. Intelligence requires awareness. Consciousness is awareness of oneself. I for one cannot imagine an intelligent being that does not possess consciousness.
One can certainly imagine that a very very dumb creature is sentient, and imagine that a very very very intelligent mechanical process is not sentient. We truly do not know what consciousness is or how it arises.
We know that we have consciousness (or at least I know that I have consciousness) and we know that we have some degree of intelligence, but it's not at all clear that one comes from the other.