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Re:ChatGPT – The Revolutionary Bullshit Parrot by sho_hn on Friday March 31, 2023 @04:21PM (#35393059)
Yes, I know, but this is presently not available via the API. What OP here means is that someone's talking about 3.5 without having tried something with 4, while accidentally misleading people into thinking that there's a special 4 distinct from the 4 available on ChatGPT that can do more. This is not the case. If you've used 4 via GPT, there's not a different version somehow - that we know about! - that is more capable or useful. If your interactions with 4 were via the ChatGPT frontend, you don't need to revisit your opinions now.
Re:ChatGPT – The Revolutionary Bullshit Parrot by nomel on Friday March 31, 2023 @07:51PM (#35395373)
> that we know about! - that is more capable or useful

There's some nuance that makes your statement not completely accurate, and Sam talks about it briefly.

ChatGPT is GPT-4 with additional training, and layers, on top of it. ChatGPT is more useful when used in a conversation mode, because it was trained based on how people liked the responses, in a conversation mode. Raw GPT-4 is harder to use, because it's not optimized for a back and fourth. It may be much more useful for other use cases, though.

Re:ChatGPT – The Revolutionary Bullshit Parrot by sho_hn on Friday March 31, 2023 @08:05PM (#35395479)
I was thinking about this while writing earlier, and kind of made the leap that we haven't yet found a way to make the model more useful than the additional training (or at least it's not been published), so technically it would be accurate to say it like this. However, I certainly agree with you that there could potentially be other utility you could derive from the base model with alternate steps. I appreciate your comment.