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Re:If AI scaling is to be shut down, let it be for a coheren... by misssocrates on Friday March 31, 2023 @09:53AM (#35387178)
What if governments start regulating and locking down advanced computing in the same way they locked down medicine and advanced weapontry?
Re:If AI scaling is to be shut down, let it be for a coheren... by nl on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:03AM (#35387322)
Well they do of course. There are export restrictions on supercomputers now, including many NVIDIA GPUs.

I contend that doesn't matter.

There is sufficient compute available now at consumer levels to make it too late to stop training LLMs.

If cloud A100s became unavailable tomorrow it'd be awkward, but there is enough progress being made on training on lower RAM cards to show it is possible.

Re:If AI scaling is to be shut down, let it be for a coheren... by dwaltrip on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:16PM (#35389331)
> I contend that doesn't matter.

Slowing things down is a real effect that will impact how circumstances unfold.

Do I trust that a "slow down / pause" would be done robustly and sensibly? I wish I was more optimistic about that.

At the very least, we should definitely continue having this conversation.

Re:If AI scaling is to be shut down, let it be for a coheren... by seanmcdirmid on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:18AM (#35387514)
They do, which is why China is dumping a bunch of money into ramping up its asic/GPU tech and production.
Re:If AI scaling is to be shut down, let it be for a coheren... by judge2020 on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:01AM (#35387293)
So far it seems letting private industry iterate on LLMs doesn't directly pose to a risk of ending lives like human trials and nuclear weaponry development do.
Re:If AI scaling is to be shut down, let it be for a coheren... by JohnFen on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:33AM (#35388660)
I think the fear of LLMs is very overblown. On the other hand, I think that if LLMs actually manage to do what proponents hope it will, some people will die as a result due to economics when they lose their jobs.

That's not unique to LLMs, of course. It's what has happened before every time something has obsoleted a bunch of jobs. There's no reason to think this time would be any different.

Re:If AI scaling is to be shut down, let it be for a coheren... by stametseater on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:57AM (#35389033)
The old excuse from AI researchers was that once AI takes all the mundane jobs, people will be free to become artists. Ask artists now what they think about AI. A whole lot of them aren't very happy about it.