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Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by Spooky23 on Thursday March 30, 2023 @10:13PM (#35381569)
Treaties have an effect similar to a constitutional amendment.
Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by dogma1138 on Thursday March 30, 2023 @10:27PM (#35381700)
No they do not, treaties when ratified become federal law, they are still bound by the constitution.
Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by Spooky23 on Thursday March 30, 2023 @10:43PM (#35381820)
My apologies, I phrased that inelegantly. It’s not that black and white.

Treaties have and do grant the Federal government additional powers. They cannot diminish powers or add something that is taken away.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by dogma1138 on Thursday March 30, 2023 @10:55PM (#35381905)
They do not, self executing treaties become domestic laws, if these laws are not constitutional then the treaty is pretty much void.

And non self executing treaties are meaningless they pretty much mean that the US government promised something but it is not compelled to do anything about it and there is no mechanism that would require it to comply.

The US constitution is supreme it takes precedence over anything the legislative branch might legislate and any action the executive branch might take.

Alien tort is also not accepted when interpreting the constitution so you literally cannot interpret the constitution from the point of view of international or foreign laws.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by tablespoon on Thursday March 30, 2023 @10:49PM (#35381857)
> Treaties have an effect similar to a constitutional amendment.

They obviously do not. If they did, you could basically abolish the Constitution with one with only the presidency, a bare majority of the Senate, and the cooperation of a foreign power. An actual Constitutional amendment must meet a much, much higher bar.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by pyuser583 on Thursday March 30, 2023 @11:04PM (#35381981)
This is not true - at least not any more.

Congress does get extra power when a law is passed as a treaty. Issues that are state business under the 10th Amendment become federal business.

But it’s nothing like a constitutional amendment.

Re:Grand Jury Votes to Indict Donald Trump by dragonwriter on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:49AM (#35382720)
No, Treaties have an effect similar to (but not quite identical to) federal statute law.