TikTok Ban Bill Is Patriot Act 2.0 Trojan Horse

Re:TikTok Ban Bill Is Patriot Act 2.0 Trojan Horse by p1necone on Thursday March 30, 2023 @12:06AM (#35367814)

It seems completely unnecessary to specifically mention VPNs though. It shouldn't matter whether you funded terrorist organizations over the public internet vs through a VPN, either should be equally illegal.

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Re:TikTok Ban Bill Is Patriot Act 2.0 Trojan Horse by gruez on Thursday March 30, 2023 @12:08AM (#35367833)

>It seems completely unnecessary to specifically mention VPNs though

"VPN" occurs exactly zero times in the bill.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/686...

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Re:TikTok Ban Bill Is Patriot Act 2.0 Trojan Horse by p1necone on Thursday March 30, 2023 @02:37AM (#35368888)

Thanks, I need to stop taking comments at face value when people are talking about stuff like this.

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Re:TikTok Ban Bill Is Patriot Act 2.0 Trojan Horse by haswell on Thursday March 30, 2023 @07:37AM (#35371105)

While VPNs are not mentioned explicitly, there is very clear language that talks about attempting to evade the rules, which would clearly apply to VPNs.

Furthermore, some have pointed out that the language of the bill could force providers to start tracking what users do.

I’ve encountered quite a few “but the bill says nothing about VPNs” comments and those seem to be problematic takes.

The bill doesn’t mention TikTok either.

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Re:TikTok Ban Bill Is Patriot Act 2.0 Trojan Horse by gruez on Thursday March 30, 2023 @09:10AM (#35372116)

>Furthermore, some have pointed out that the language of the bill could force providers to start tracking what users do.

Source?

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Re:TikTok Ban Bill Is Patriot Act 2.0 Trojan Horse by haswell on Thursday March 30, 2023 @11:03AM (#35373734)

Here are two discussion subthreads that go down this path, and most of the threads here on HN have some variation of this exploration [0] [1].

The key issue seems to be the very open ended language about attempting to circumvent or aiding in the circumvention of any enacted restrictions.

As written, this seems to potentially impact both users of VPNs and VPN providers.

- [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35367684

- [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35369570

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Re:TikTok Ban Bill Is Patriot Act 2.0 Trojan Horse by bioemerl on Thursday March 30, 2023 @12:08AM (#35367832)

AFAIK it doesn't actually mention VPNs specifically

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