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Re:The Horrifying Epidemic of Teen-Age Fentanyl Deaths in a ... by runnerup on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @10:10PM (#35366900)
This report is a bit old. Since then, China no longer manufactures fentanyl (for the most part), and does not ship fentanyl precursors to the USA.

So the flows look much different now. The precursors are shipped to Mexico, where fentanyl is produced in small labs, often trained by Chinese associates, and then shipped to the USA.

Re:The Horrifying Epidemic of Teen-Age Fentanyl Deaths in a ... by tristor on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @10:18PM (#35366964)
> produced in small labs, often trained by Chinese associates, and then shipped to the USA.

Same thing, more steps, more plausible deniability. What's the diff?

Re:The Horrifying Epidemic of Teen-Age Fentanyl Deaths in a ... by runnerup on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @10:21PM (#35367017)
Well for one, if China stops supplying Mexico, and the USA stops all illicit deliveries of anything from China…

That won’t solve our problem because Mexico will buy chemical precursors from Brazil, India, or any of the large chemical companies in Mexico. The labs are already there (invested capital) and the chemicals (marginal costs) aren’t specialized.

So the “solution” has changed if you want prohibition. I mean, we’ve tried prohibition for 70+ years now. It doesn’t work. But we can keep trying!

Re:The Horrifying Epidemic of Teen-Age Fentanyl Deaths in a ... by rootusrootus on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @10:35PM (#35367149)
> So the “solution” has changed if you want prohibition. I mean, we’ve tried prohibition for 70+ years now. It doesn’t work. But we can keep trying!

I'm not sure that our dabbling with legalization is a panacea either. Maybe we should aggressively try both at the same time. Extremely harsh punishment for dealers, decriminalization for users, well funded treatment for anybody who wants it.

Re:The Horrifying Epidemic of Teen-Age Fentanyl Deaths in a ... by telotortium on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @11:58PM (#35367749)
I think the only solution is for the US to conquer the other half of Mexico that it didn't annex in the 19th century. Feasibility: uncertain.