Disney Lays Off Ike Perlmutter, Chairman of Marvel Entertainment

Re:Disney Lays Off Ike Perlmutter, Chairman of Marvel Entert... by outworlder on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @12:52PM (#35359910)

> Maybe I shouldn’t complain, though; laying off management alongside labor should be normalized.

If that includes C-level, I'm all for it. By definition, they have failed.

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Re:Disney Lays Off Ike Perlmutter, Chairman of Marvel Entert... by dehrmann on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @12:59PM (#35360009)

You have to look at the circumstances. If you were an airline laying off pilots in April 2020, no, this wasn't a C-level failure. Sometimes, the layoffs were because of bad C-level decisions, and leadership should take a hard look at how did performed and if they should still be there. And sometimes, even if leadership screwed up, the uncertainty if they leave isn't worth it.

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Re:Disney Lays Off Ike Perlmutter, Chairman of Marvel Entert... by hn_throwaway_99 on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @01:06PM (#35360104)

I understand people feel differently, and layoffs can certainly be extremely disruptive to those affected, but I don't consider them a mark of "failure" of management.

What's better, to get hired, paid a great salary and gain experience and knowledge for a couple years, and then get laid off with 4 months severance+benefits, or never get hired at all? To be clear, I think there are some fair arguments (not necessarily ones I agree with) for "never get hired at all", but just be clear, that is what you are arguing for.

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Re:Disney Lays Off Ike Perlmutter, Chairman of Marvel Entert... by snozolli on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @01:35PM (#35360506)

and then get laid off with 4 months severance+benefits

And a black mark on your record that every HR drone will pick up on like a bloodhound.

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Re:Disney Lays Off Ike Perlmutter, Chairman of Marvel Entert... by hn_throwaway_99 on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @04:21PM (#35362896)

The thing that's "safer" about getting laid off when there are huge rounds throughout many different companies is that it is actually even more accurate to say that it had 0 to do with job performance.

True, obviously companies use layoffs to get rid of low performers, but there are just numerous cases where companies are canning entire divisions, e.g. the Alexa-device-focused teams at Amazon or the metaverse team at Disney.

I highly doubt these most recent layoffs will be treated as much of a black mark.

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Re:Disney Lays Off Ike Perlmutter, Chairman of Marvel Entert... by snozolli on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @05:32PM (#35364027)

Following the Great Recession, there were job postings that literally said not to apply unless you already had a job. You wildly underestimate the degree to which HR will mindlessly inflict their uniformed bias on the rest of us.

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Re:Disney Lays Off Ike Perlmutter, Chairman of Marvel Entert... by JohnFen on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @06:54PM (#35365030)

Even if they don't make it an actual requirement, it's almost always easier to get a job while you have a job.

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Re:Disney Lays Off Ike Perlmutter, Chairman of Marvel Entert... by nostromo on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @01:06PM (#35360111)

Disney did just fire their CEO though.

Although he got a $20m exit package which undoubtedly softened the blow.

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