Ubuntu stops shipping Flatpak by default

Re:Ubuntu stops shipping Flatpak by default by qbasic_forever on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @06:41AM (#35355217)

Arch Linux is pretty faithful to shipping software exactly or as close as possible to as the upstream authors intended. It's on a rolling release which means you kind of get a firehose of nonstop major version updates though, whether you want them or not.

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Re:Ubuntu stops shipping Flatpak by default by geokon on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @09:46AM (#35357216)

how does that work in practice？

upstream didn't build with all the dependencies at the same version as the latest in the arch repo. Nor are most upstream developers bumping all their dependency versions constantly

if you're a big player like ubuntu/debian you can go to the authors/upstream and ask them to fix the program to work with their dependency versions (in say.. an LTS release). most would be glad to bc it's just something upstream needs to do once every couple years and doesn't need maintenance. If even thats too much and yyou want esomething even more handsoff/timeless then you make an Appimage. It'll work for ever

With Arch youd need to constantly monitor the thing doesn't break？Are they just #yolo'ing dependency versions most of the time ？ (itd prolly work 99% of the time..)

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Re:Ubuntu stops shipping Flatpak by default by creshal on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @10:06AM (#35357475)

In practice it works because GP is exaggerating. Arch does hold back library and/or program updates until they work together, or simply ships multiple major releases of libraries, and have a separate testing branch.

Right now e.g. there's openssl (still at version 3.0.x, because nobody supports 3.1.x yet) and openssl-1.1 (1.1.x-y) to handle the rather slow migration of upstreams to the new major release.

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