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Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by concordDance on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @04:23AM (#35354176)
Current Teslas will get you 50% charge in half an hour. Is adding 25 mins to your 5 hour journey really that big a deal?
Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by DrBazza on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @06:30AM (#35355137)
In the UK, in 2023, yes.

I drive a part motorway, part countryside route that has very, very, few EV charging points, and on many occasions they've been full or broken, or both.

EV cars are good for cities and city to city along motorways. Anywhere else, not so much.

Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by Reason077 on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @07:18AM (#35355520)
The UK charging experience has improved rapidly in the the past few years and will continue to do so. That is, buy an EV today and it's only going to improve tomorrow as more and better charging infrastructure is rolled out.
Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by kgwgk on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @07:09AM (#35355438)
Isn’t "adding 25 mins" conditional on having a charging point right on your way waiting for you?
Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by DrBazza on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @08:22AM (#35356163)
Exactly my point.

Based on time to charge vs time to pump gas, let's be charitable and say you need 30 minutes to charge an EV fully, vs. 5 minutes on a pump, so you'd need 6x the number of publicly available EV chargers to replace an existing gas station.

On my regular UK route, the motorway services have petrol garages that can fill 20 cars at once https://goo.gl/maps/wF7dxup3jBMAGqjg9, and only 6 EV points: https://goo.gl/maps/GXm2xoPNvXGZiMxU9 and they're always occupied when I pass through.

I'm sure every car park will eventually get more EV points, never one per space though, but we're not there yet. We're not even at 6x the gas station pump count yet.

I'm sure I'll be in the last group of people to buy an EV.

Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by Gareth321 on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @09:14AM (#35356768)
This is not real world. Here is one (https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=550e4ca1-4a68-4ef...) My family regularly travels from Denmark to Austria for skiing. This route is 10:36:00 of driving, and 2:26:00 of charging. And that's assuming the chargers are free. They're often not. In reality - and I have tested this with a rental - charging occupies 30%+ of total driving time. This is absurd on a road trip.

I think EVs are great - for short trips. They're clearly terrible for longer trips. We all hope they get better.