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Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by hotpotamus on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @10:00PM (#35351161)
In the US, a 3 wheeled vehicle can be sold as a motorcycle and then the regulations are quite lax (though I think helmet laws might kick in). Look at a Polaris Slingshot as an example.
Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by elihu on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @03:56AM (#35353989)
The Arcimoto FUV is a 3-wheel electric that's available in some states now. I'm not sure if there are some states where helments are required, but generally they aren't.

https://www.arcimoto.com/fuv

Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by rootusrootus on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @10:20PM (#35351361)
Aptera has been threatening to produce one for how long now?

I don't think most people are actually interested in a three wheel officially-a-motorcycle-but-effectively-a-tiny-car.

Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by myself248 on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @11:29PM (#35351998)
Speak for yourself, I've been in line for an Aptera ever since the solar reboot.

I don't drive a ton of miles, but it's over roads where a bike would be literal suicide. A performant runabout with a bit of cargo space is exactly what I want, and if it only needs to be plugged in a few times a year, so much the better.

I'm keeping the A-Team van for when I need to move minicomputers and their peripherals, but an Aptera could do like 95% of my driving.

Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by brewdad on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @12:19AM (#35352483)
Give me something more crashworthy like a VW Polo for the US market and I’m there.
Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by elihu on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @03:59AM (#35354008)
Would an Arcimoto FUV work for you? Those are available now. (They don't have solar panels and probably have much worse aerodynamics than Aptera. On the other hand, I think Arcimoto has the right idea with front/rear seating rather than side-by-side.)
Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by myself248 on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @11:27AM (#35358644)
.....does it have... doors?

I'm gonna say no. I deal with months of snow and slush and a few miles of "70mph" (really 85+mph) highway.

Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by elihu on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @01:58PM (#35360850)
I think they have half-doors now. It's kind of a weird thing not to have fully figured out at this point, but I give them credit for actually releasing a product and iterating.
Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by hotpotamus on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @10:34PM (#35351524)
I had a co-worker who actually put $1000 down on an Elio years ago, but as far as I know, they've never come close to making one. I'd be fine driving something like an Aptera, but I just looked and it's like $33K, so I'm not really seeing the savings. I'm also keenly aware that I'm not most people.
Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by WorldMaker on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @01:48PM (#35360693)
$33K is still cheaper to any comparable Tesla Model 3 at slightly higher expected range (plus the benefits of solar charging).
Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by hotpotamus on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @02:22PM (#35361166)
It's still more than a Chevy Bolt which looks like a regular sedan and not some retro-futurist science experiment to meld an airplane and automobile that you drive down the road.
Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by WorldMaker on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @02:34PM (#35361315)
Aesthetics are always in the eye of the beholder.

Personally, as a 2012 Volt owner I certainly wish the Bolt looked like a regular sedan. It's an ugly modern American "cross-over" (they like the weird ugly "EUV" term in marketing) that isn't a proper sedan in any classic sense but also doesn't commit enough to being a proper hatchback or a light truck enough to make sense for why it is so "cross-over" looking. To me it is a very ugly duckling with no true home in car fashion.

I like the "dolphin tricycle" look of the Aptera. But I suppose I also like retro-futurism and science experiments and in general cars that look like they would take off for the sky if not caged to the ground.

Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by hotpotamus on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @02:54PM (#35361572)
I'd drive an affordable electric car that looks like that, but it's a bit too "look at me" for my taste. A basic box on wheels with doors that moves from A to B is more my thing (I currently drive a Chevy Cruze). See also the Polaris Slingshot; I'm not trying to look like a superhero off on my way to fight crime.

As far as what I'd actually like, a Chinese maker already made it but I don't imagine it coming to the US ever - https://insideevs.com/news/614218/wuling-hong-guang-mini-ev-...

Or something like a Fiat 500 with a Cabrio top (they made a gas one, but not an electric as far as I know). Still a bit odd looking, but more cute than mean or science-experiment.

Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by WorldMaker on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @03:39PM (#35362239)
I've fallen in love with videos of a lot of Chinese sedans. I very seriously think that if import tariffs get worked out and the Chinese EV companies make a serious effort, they have a ripe opportunity to blow up in the US market the way that the Korean sedans did for Gen X and the Japanese sedans did for the Boomers.

(That's such a dumb cycle: Americans forget that they love sedans until an importer starts importing them in bulk. The importer themselves forget Americans love sedans and move on to trucks/SUVs like everyone else. Some new importer needs to come along to disrupt the market again.)

(Related to that, I also fell in love with the Honda e and knew that to be futile love because Honda of America is a truck company.)

Re:The EV Transition Is Harder Than Anyone Thinks by shubb on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @10:33PM (#35351509)
For short range urband deliveries in London, in seeing small 4 wheeled electric vehicles that are technically bicycles. This had the advantage that they can use cycle paths, so not need insurance, driving licence, or to any design validation.