Patriot Act on steroids: anti-TikTok Trojan horse for censorship, surveillance

Re:Patriot Act on steroids: anti-TikTok Trojan horse for cen... by throwawaymaths on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @11:58AM (#35343135)

I mean not to be callous towards the Ukrainians (who are incredibly heroic), but:

- NATO is a stronger alliance, so the US will not have to spend as much defending Europe in the long run

- us has spent ~1-2k/citizen to dismantle one of its biggest existential threats

- china has tons of egg on face

If nukes don't happen, I'll be entertaining the idea Biden the greatest stable genius Chad president we've had. And I started out disliking Biden. Definitely hated him when he was veep.

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Re:Patriot Act on steroids: anti-TikTok Trojan horse for cen... by JPws_Prntr_Fngr on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @10:57PM (#35351721)

Even from the pure realpolitik perspective, I don’t understand how the cold warriors came to the conclusion that massive destabilization of a nuclear superpower was a desirable outcome.

Didn’t we learn our lesson from humiliating post-Soviet Russia in the 90s? (Or Versailles-ing Germany?) Economic desperation yields aggressive strongmen and violent populations.

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