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Re:Apple Passwords Deserve an App by zarzavat on Monday March 27, 2023 @05:20PM (#35332819)
I’m super curious what a backup second factor is for the average user who has only one device: a phone, that sometimes gets lost or is stolen.

Feels like these things are designed by Californians with no idea of how the world is.

Re:Apple Passwords Deserve an App by stouset on Monday March 27, 2023 @05:25PM (#35332875)
If you're in this category, your alternative to Passkeys at all is SMS or no 2FA whatsoever. Enabling Passkeys does at least ensure that you have a minimum of two separate devices so you already do effectively have some form of backup of your second factor.

My comment is targeted at someone who is savvy enough to: a) care about having "real" 2FA, and b) is concerned about lock-in, and c) is extremely sensitive to being locked out. For someone like that, you're already buying YubiKeys or some equivalent. And if you don't already have some, you're never prevented from using them later.

Re:Apple Passwords Deserve an App by crooked-v on Monday March 27, 2023 @08:54PM (#35334346)
Reminds of the occasional comment threads on here about homeless people permanently locked out of new accounts every few months because of stolen devices and the growing corporate obsession with forced 2FA, and all the replies that amount to "if they didn't want to fuck off and die they shouldn't have been poor".