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Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by raverbashing on Monday March 27, 2023 @02:05PM (#35330080)
> Anti-EU referendums in European countries are frequently ignored, even when in theory they are constitutionally binding

Yeah, that's why the UK didn't leave in the end right? lol. Does "Non-biding referendum" rings a bell?

> long track record of classifying true reports about their activities in the British press as "myths".

Ah yes the trustworthy British press saying German kids can't write to Santa because of GDPR. Yes

Yes, keep talking, I like to make a collection of anti-EU talking points (from Peter Thiel's think tank most likely).

For all the criticism the EU deserves, it's very telling when the narrative turns into manipulation

Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by revelio on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:59PM (#35332506)
>> Yeah, that's why the UK didn't leave in the end right? lol.

UK was the first where it wasn't ignored. After the vote I remember being told several times by Europeans they didn't really believe it'd ever be implemented, exactly due to the track record of European countries in ignoring referendums that didn't go the EU's way.

Even then it was a very close run thing. The Remainers in Parliament were willing to create a constitutional crisis to try and get the referendum overturned a.k.a. the "People's Vote", and were holding the government hostage to get that. It was only a a lucky break (the Lib Dem leader going full delusional) that allowed Johnson to break the deadlock, go the country and allow the electorate to purge the Remainer MPs who had lied to their voters about their true position. But make no mistake, that was the worst constitutional crisis the UK experienced in living memory.

>> Ah yes the trustworthy British press saying German kids can't write to Santa because of GDPR

That story came from the German press and was correct:

https://www.welt.de/kmpkt/article183978370/Weihnachtsmarkt-i...

You see how easily you're manipulated by the EU? They've convinced you and others that if the press criticizes the EU the press must be lying. But it's almost never the case.

The EU has taken down their myths site now. It was trash. Not only totally focused on the British press, but I remember quite clearly flicking through them back when the site was live and noticing that all of them were admitted to be true, with the "debunking" (such as it was) being always along the lines of, "this is true but it's justified" or "we prefer an alternative interpretation", or "we don't phrase it like that".

Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by raverbashing on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @01:33AM (#35336334)
> That story came from the German press and was correct:

So one specific case where the lists are sent to the city government and shown in public now means "children can't write to Santa?" Way to blown out of proportion. (And they could, if their parents consented to it)

Thanks for showing how easy it is to be manipulated by anti-EU propaganda.

Yes, the Welt article is not lying, the propagandists are, as usual

Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s... by revelio on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @03:37AM (#35337131)
lol. so it was the best example of the lying British press, now the press wasn't lying and it doesn't matter anyway. The only thing that changed being the nationality of the newspaper.

"they could, if their parents consented"

double lol