Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s...
by gpderetta on Monday March 27, 2023 @08:33AM
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> They could literally vote for von der Leyen or not vote at all.
that's how confidence votes work on most parliamentary republics.
Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s...
by mardifoufs on Monday March 27, 2023 @10:13AM
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I think a key difference is that in parliamentary republics, we usually now how the candidate (that the parliement votes on) has been chosen: it's usually by winning the elections as the head of the party with the most parliement seats. In this case, the process is completely opaque. I would say that it would be pretty weird if people say, here in Canada, voted for their MPs (good!) but then said MPs could only choose between an arbitrary list of candidates to be Prime Minister, chosen in a private meeting with 0 explanations.
Re:The chat control proposal does not belong in democratic s...
by SiempreViernes on Monday March 27, 2023 @10:32AM
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In systems where you don't get single party majorities, do you _really_ how and what the coalition members traded to reach a deal?
Parliament approving what the Commission does is of no use for repealing laws.
The President is not elected by the Parliament. They experimented with that in the Juncker era, now it's back to being controlled (in theory) by the Council. The Parliament was given a "vote" that consisted of a list of options with one name on it. They could literally vote for von der Leyen or not vote at all. Even then she only barely scraped past quorum.
The Council meanwhile isn't democratic. Everything it does is secret. How did von der Leyen get the top job despite being manifestly unsuitable? Nobody knows. It's secret and never leaked.