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Re:Half of Black High School Students in the Bay Area Can Ba... by ashwagary on Saturday March 25, 2023 @08:46PM (#35309320)
>The nuance is that most can read, but not "at their age level"

I wonder what percentage are learning English as a 2nd language.

The problem I see with using "black" as a descriptor is there are recent African immigrants, 1+ gen. immigrants, Afro latinos, descendants of enslaved Americans, etc... put under one umbrella.

How can anyone pinpoint why a % of "black" students have reading issues at similar rates to hispanic students when the statistics pool black people from vastly different backgrounds together?

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Re:Half of Black High School Students in the Bay Area Can Ba... by caminante on Sunday March 26, 2023 @12:05AM (#35310775)
The author cites the pew study [0] that claims less than 10% of the "US black population" is foreign born.

I have no idea how things stack in the Bay Area, but I figure that answers your question and implies your nuance likely wouldn't change anything.

[0] https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/04/09/a-risin...

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Re:Half of Black High School Students in the Bay Area Can Ba... by ashwagary on Sunday March 26, 2023 @07:19AM (#35313221)
>The author cites the pew study [0] that claims less than 10% of the "US black population" is foreign born.

Yes, when I saw that it was clear to me that being "foreign born" said very little about the population. For example, English can still be a 2nd or 3rd language for recent immigrants with US born children, especially in California and Texas.

>I figure that answers your question and implies your nuance likely wouldn't change anything.

I disagree, immigrants are most likely unevenly distributed.

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Re:Half of Black High School Students in the Bay Area Can Ba... by caminante on Sunday March 26, 2023 @12:31PM (#35316324)
You're not disagreeing with me. I explicitly raised the possibility of uneven distribution in my reply.

That said, you could probably hunt for some school-level stats in the bay area and make an educated guess.

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Re:Half of Black High School Students in the Bay Area Can Ba... by ashwagary on Sunday March 26, 2023 @05:20PM (#35319758)
>You're not disagreeing with me. I explicitly raised the possibility of uneven distribution in my reply.

I misread, thanks for clarifying.

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