He might be boring, but he’s very good natured and interested in others. You would be amazed how hard it is to be genuine in this way. It’s also what makes people open up in an interesting way.

This is not a quality I know in many people, it’s very rare. It also doesn’t make him look good as an interviewer, but it does make for good interviews.

I also find the calibre of his guests much more appealing than many other podcasts.