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Re:The Framework Laptop 16 by sudosysgen on Friday March 24, 2023 @11:15AM (#35290128)
You can completely turn off dGPUs from software nowadays. In theory the driver should do it for you when it's not in use (And I find this works well for me), but you can also forcefully turn them off, both on Windows and Linux, such that they draw exactly 0W.
Re:The Framework Laptop 16 by Runways on Friday March 24, 2023 @11:35AM (#35290455)
Hmmm. My experience with XPS 15s is you can turn it off with software in Linux, but it was pretty technical (not something average users would be keen on). I wasn't sure if that was the case for most laptops. It definitely wasn't drawing 0W when I was just coding/browsing/etc though, it doubled the battery life in Linux when I turned it off.
Re:The Framework Laptop 16 by sudosysgen on Friday March 24, 2023 @11:49AM (#35290705)
It depends on how recent the motherboard and GPU is, if you have an NVidia dGPU. If you have a GPU made in the last two years and a recent CPU, it works automatically out of the box with X11. On older systems, it's pretty technical, but thankfully many distributions now come with tools that handle it all for you and give you a button you can click to turn it off.
Re:The Framework Laptop 16 by kitsunesoba on Friday March 24, 2023 @12:02PM (#35290998)
Yeah, my experience with iGPU+dGPU setups outside of MacBooks has been messy. Part of the problem perhaps is the various different ways it can be set up, e.g. with/without mux switch, and last I knew AMD and Nvidia handle iGPU ↔ dGPU handoffs differently rather than agreeing on a standard.

With that in mind I'd also prefer that there be a way to flip off the dGPU in BIOS to guarantee that it can't unexpectedly become a power vampire.

Re:The Framework Laptop 16 by sudosysgen on Friday March 24, 2023 @12:24PM (#35291394)
AMD and NVidia now use the same standard, which is PRIME for handoff and automatic shutdown using Runtime PM, and if needed muxes are handled by the vga-switcheroo.

On the latest NVidia/AMD hardware, no configuration should be required, unless you try to use Wayland on NVidia.

Unfortunately on NVidia you really need the latest hardware, both on the GPU and CPU side. If you do, it should generally "just work". Of course Linux is Linux and it might not.

Re:The Framework Laptop 16 by 9935c101ab17a66 on Saturday March 25, 2023 @12:18AM (#35299323)
I don’t think apple gets enough credit for how good their automatic graphics switching implementation was. I’d argue that most users who benefitted from it didn’t even know it was happening. It’s such a useful feature too, because dGPUs generally kill notebook batteries, and even at idle, they probably generate an impactful amount of heat.

Is there truly no equivalent to apples automatic graphic switching for PC laptops? If so that’s WILD.

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Re:The Framework Laptop 16 by richdougherty on Friday March 24, 2023 @09:46PM (#35298283)
That's really interesting to know. Thanks for mentioning it. The laptop sounds fantastic too: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Zephyrus-G14-GA402R-G...