This comment is full of misinformation. GTK3 is not frozen. There are PRs for it open right now. They just dropped the Autotools build recently, in fact. Elementary is currently using GTK4. I can only assume Cinnamon is on their way to using GTK4, but I don't keep up. XFCE and MATE move much slower than the other popular desktop environments.

XFCE and MATE are going to be slow on the uptick since GTK4 isn't a desktop toolkit at the moment. From what I understand, it has the potential to be, but the maintained haven't opened up certain APIs.

So the people from Redhat on #gtk were lying when they told me Gtk3 was frozen? I guess getting gaslit is slightly better than gtk3 actually being frozen broken. Thanks! I'll go back to trying to get the defaults for gtk3 filechooserwidget.c changed.

As for the desktop environments, okay, so Elementary uses Gtk4 too. That's GNOME and Elementary. 2 of them. And we're ignoring all the applications that still use gtk3 (or 2) and the very few of them that have ported to Gtk4 (since the docs aren't even finished for 4).

Why is it GNOME's responsibility to port non-GNOME applications or desktop environments? How are the GTK4 docs not done? I use them at least once a week.

We're not talking about responsibility. We're talking about what Gtk version most people use. Most people use Gtk3.

As for the docs, it was when I last checked about 5 months ago.

There's a fun game that toxic internet communities like to play, where the elites of the community say one thing in one breath, and then another thing in another. breath Then their legions of weak-minded followers will cite that one thing or the other thing whenever their community identity is threatened. Either or, the community will gladly lie on the behalf of the elites. The elites pretend not to see the lies and the low-ranking community members pretend that they have no responsibility.

Silly tribal nonsense that applies to more than a few maintainers and software.