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Re:Book Publishers Won't Stop Until Libraries Are Dead by Mezzie on Thursday March 23, 2023 @09:59AM (#35274906)
It makes sense as an incentive.

It just results in very silly situations where the library buys the terrible copies and just happen to also have information on how the DRM works and which programs can bypass it and since libraries exist to provide information, if someone asks for it, of course you tell them. Same way as there tend to be copiers that are out of sight (and camera) range. At least a couple of libraries I worked for had information by the copiers on exactly how much of a book you could copy before it was considered copyright infringement, thus informing people that they could copy the books.

It's very kayfabe-esque.

You're right that it's a fundamental values mismatch. Personally, I'm an extremist who would crash every F500 company to prevent another Library of Alexandria. Knowledge > money.

Re:Book Publishers Won't Stop Until Libraries Are Dead by ketralnis on Thursday March 23, 2023 @12:20PM (#35277133)
> how much of a book you could copy before it was considered copyright infringement

So they help people follow the law?

Re:Book Publishers Won't Stop Until Libraries Are Dead by Mezzie on Thursday March 23, 2023 @01:16PM (#35277991)
Technically, yes.

Lawyers and librarians fighting is always fun because each group is very detail-oriented, very pedantic, and amazing at malicious compliance.

Re:Book Publishers Won't Stop Until Libraries Are Dead by nine_k on Thursday March 23, 2023 @02:49PM (#35279520)
Much like one of my acquaintances, a professor, sent their students a messages that obtaining copies of their textbooks online, e.g. on Libgen (a list of URLs follows), is not officially approved.
Re:Book Publishers Won't Stop Until Libraries Are Dead by throwaway290 on Thursday March 23, 2023 @01:17PM (#35278010)
Now any limits on how much of the book you can copy are irrelevant, since you can LLM yourself a brand new book by paying MS a few bucks and somehow there is no copyright violation in that process...
Re:Book Publishers Won't Stop Until Libraries Are Dead by rnk on Thursday March 23, 2023 @04:30PM (#35280898)
What do you mean, can you ask chatGPT to write the contents of of some book, and it would just regurgitate them?
Re:Book Publishers Won't Stop Until Libraries Are Dead by throwaway290 on Thursday March 23, 2023 @06:29PM (#35282301)
No I mean prompt a sufficiently capable LLM based on what you wanted to read, chances are the LLM was trained on that book
Re:Book Publishers Won't Stop Until Libraries Are Dead by angelbar on Friday March 24, 2023 @05:48AM (#35286971)
Not exactly, but you can work with the AI to recreate a book asking about the topics and from there asking how to explain them one by one in the context of the book application