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Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by piva00 on Thursday March 23, 2023 @06:16AM (#35272459)
"When education isn't liberating, the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor" fits really well with your comment.

If unions keep innovation from happening how can Sweden be considered one of the most innovative countries on Earth? Or how can Germany be a powerhouse of engineering and building the machines that build machines?

Your take is a regurgitation of the usual talking points that the elite class use to keep workers separated. Unions aren't forcing socialism, unions are there to build up labour power against employers, who have a much higher leverage in any working agreement you can think of.

Your comment is exactly what I hear for the past 20 years of my work life. Workers are, ultimately, the ones creating value, you are defending the class that has the means to take risks due to their accumulation of capital. The rare oddity of a self-made man is the carrot that those use to push you to regurgitate their points.

Technology leapfrogged everyone because it's an immense value, it's immensely useful, not because there weren't labour protections. That's such a sideways view of everything that's a bit laughable...

Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by qwytw on Thursday March 23, 2023 @07:10AM (#35272897)
High skilled workers in Sweden and Germany and severely underpaid compared to their US counterparts? So either they suddenly become much more productive after moving the US, they are subsidizing their less skilled colleagues or most of that surplus is going to their employers instead?

Probably a bit of each depending on the location/sector/etc.. However Sweden in particular has one of the highest levels of wealth inequality in the word (even a bit higher than the US)...

Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by ExoticPearTree on Thursday March 23, 2023 @07:51AM (#35273284)
I would argue workers create indirect value, because what they do in the end is to execute the vision of the founder of the company. They would have created actual value for themselves if they would have had the vision and the grit to start a company.

What was invented in Sweden that is so groundbreaking they're the most innovative country on the planet?

Regarding technology, it happened in a country unencumbered by unions at every step. Yeah, the US sucks at a lot of things, but at least it's crazy bent on have unions everywhere.

I think that if you're good enough you have all the leverage that you need to be successful. You don't need to join an union for this.

Re:Companies to publish salary ranges in job adverts under n... by lambertsimnel on Thursday March 23, 2023 @03:51PM (#35280382)
> What was invented in Sweden that is so groundbreaking they're the most innovative country on the planet?

Although I don't know which country is the most innovative on the planet, I think it should be noted that Sweden has a fairly small population (smaller than some cities), so we should probably consider whether Sweden's inventions are in proportion with its population.

I think of Sweden as the home of Volvo, Saab, Skype, Sictus Prolog, Spotify, Minecraft, seatbelts, dynamite and Angstrom's spectroscopy. Don't the Swedes punch above their weight?

Edit: Lots of medical inventions, too: pacemakers, local anesthetics, ECGs, ultrasounds and ventilators. And more computer technology: graphics cards and Bluetooth.