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Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by kelseyfrog on Monday March 20, 2023 @11:20AM (#35232834)
The issue in a nutshell is that folks use the language of objective reality, science, and nature, as a political cuddle and then deny doing it. When that can stop we can actually sit down and have an adult conversation.
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Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by TimTheTinker on Monday March 20, 2023 @02:33PM (#35236390)
> folks use the language of objective reality, science, and nature, as a political cuddle

Did you mean "political cudgel"?

I agree people in power always have a collection of "facts" they pull out to "prove" things. Public arbiters of conversation (op-ed columnists, bloggers, etc.) ought to call those into question as a matter of routine.

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Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by kelseyfrog on Monday March 20, 2023 @03:09PM (#35236964)
Haha, what a typo! That's funny, yes.

We're in the midst of epistemological de/re-territorialization between objective and subjective and frankly, when I hear or read people frame their opinions as fact/truth/reality/nature/science I instantly shutoff and encourage others to do the same. Specifically, I'm an anti-reificationist and if I catch a wiff of people reifying their symbolic universe, they instantly lose my respect.

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Re:More Students Are Turning Away from College and Toward Ap... by skinnymuch on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @02:02PM (#35264815)
Sorry I don’t mean to be following you. I have been trying to find a way to actually agree with you on something.

I found it! We are both absolutely rigid when it comes to reificationism. We happened to move to different sides of the political spectrum is all. It’s fascinating to me. I was a normal person not knowing politics 1.5 years ago. I got radicalized mostly in 2022 to the left.

Thanks for teaching me that word and amazingly I not only whole heartedly agree with everything you’re saying. I’m interested in your insights. Sorry if I behaved rudely to you in other comments. Im autistic and I forget to be an empathic person sometimes.

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