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Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by slothtrop on Monday March 20, 2023 @11:10AM (#35232654)
Can't understate the temporal dimension to owning a car. When dropping and picking up a kid at daycare, you want to move fast, if you work for a living.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by prmoustache on Monday March 20, 2023 @11:32AM (#35233067)
A kid goes to daycare for what 3 years? If you have 2-3 kids and you don't wait 10 years in between these are just 10 years of your life.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by slothtrop on Monday March 20, 2023 @02:13PM (#35236039)
Meaning what, it's not worth owning a vehicle for a 10 year span? Be serious.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by prmoustache on Monday March 20, 2023 @06:32PM (#35239776)
Meaning this is a moot point for most of your life.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by slothtrop on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:28AM (#35262547)
10 years does not make a moot point.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by noelwelsh on Monday March 20, 2023 @11:46AM (#35233315)
Eh. For all my kids' daycare career I dropped them off by bike. Given the distance and route it was faster than driving. It really depends on the distances involved, road layout, cycling infrastructure, geography, weather, etc... Not many universals here.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by em500 on Monday March 20, 2023 @11:47AM (#35233333)
This depends very much on local circumstances. In our local daycare in Amsterdam, probably 3/4 of dropping and picking up was done by bike. Even at that level, using a car is often slower due to tightness of parking space.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by hgomersall on Monday March 20, 2023 @12:02PM (#35233578)
I was recently obliged for the first time to drop my son off at school by car. It took 50% longer than cycling. I can't understate the temporal dimension of using a car. When dropping and picking up a kid at school...etc etc
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by slothtrop on Monday March 20, 2023 @02:13PM (#35236020)
You're not representative of how this usually works, and you know it.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by matsemann on Monday March 20, 2023 @02:46PM (#35236582)
You mean the long rows of cars queueing one constantly see outside US schools aren't representative? I'd say it takes far longer to pick someone up in a car than a bike..
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by slothtrop on Monday March 20, 2023 @03:47PM (#35237545)
Only if you live that close by. And I've never seen a long queue.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by tbihl on Monday March 20, 2023 @09:19PM (#35241333)
If you're in the US, it's likely that you either don't drive by schools when they're letting out, or you live in a place that has the right combination of density and poor kids to limit the driver pick-ups. None of the 5 places across 4 states where I've lived in the last 10 years have avoided the pickup line phenomenon.
Re:Cyclists Now Outnumber Motorists in City of London by slothtrop on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:26AM (#35262506)
You seem to have missed that this comment chain focused on daycare to begin with, not school. There's no bus for that.

Daycares vary in size. You can opt for institutions that watch after 30 kids at a time, or ones run out of houses, but one way or another if both you and your spouse work for a living, you need someone to watch your kid, and it will probably require daycare and by extension commuting. If you live in the suburbs, you drive.